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When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me.

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  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

    When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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    @evacide
    I've started just asking AI to give me links to the websites. Just tell it "give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself".

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    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

      When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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      @evacide it's the end of the world(wide web) as we know it and I feel fine

      (because I search the whole web less and less and if I do it's not through google)

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      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

        When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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        @evacide

        Just for fun I tried using the "AI mode" (like there's still another kind), and prefaced my search with "Please give me a classic set of google search results, with absolutely no AI summary, for the following terms:"

        I got about ten results. It couldn't resist prefacing it with something like "Here are web results for your query", which technically breached the request.

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        • yama@tech.lgbtY yama@tech.lgbt

          @evacide At this point imma just give up and masscan 80,443 ports myself and do a hard text search on raw htmls...

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          You can technically automate it a bit with something like YaCy: yacy.net
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          • L loric@mastodon.social

            @evacide This is why I self-host a SearXNG instance. Too many search engines deciding what I need to see, so I ask them all to get a more complete answer.

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            Same here! The only complaint I have is the constant rate-limiting, but otherwise, knowing I'm effectively using ALL THE ENGINES (and with none of the LLM slop) is great for my usage case
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            • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

              When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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              I switched to Duck Duck Go last week, apparently just in time. Google, once obsessively minimalist and functional, has descended into an ugly pile of crap. I can onlly hope the market gives them what they deserve. 😏

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              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                @evacide fuck every single bit of that bullshit.

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                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                  When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                  @evacide Watching the process that DeepSeek goes through, at lightning speed, allows me to guide it and get good results, similar to my own process of selecting web links to click, skimming information, etc. Only DeepSeek does it much faster and also elucidates the steps it is taking, while taking them. One doesn't believe the first website at the top of Google (and anyways, usually advertised), nor should one mindlessly take the first AI answer. Both processes, manual and with AI, require mindfulness.

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                  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                    When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                    @evacide And the real kicker is that once they do this, they can shape the generated summaries to basically control what we think. 😕
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                    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                      When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                      @evacide I agree with all the people in this thread who are saying to dump Google. I also think they maybe don't realize exactly how powerful and important Google search is to culture, the economy, politics, etc.

                      This has ramifications way beyond what search engine the people of Mastodon prefer.

                      (for the record, I use kagi.)

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                      • L loric@mastodon.social

                        @evacide This is why I self-host a SearXNG instance. Too many search engines deciding what I need to see, so I ask them all to get a more complete answer.

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                        @loric @evacide

                        Same.
                        This move is still a worrying move though. I reckon this will influence other search engines to do the same thing.

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                        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                          When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                          @evacide noai.duckduckgo.com

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                          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                            When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                            @evacide I try to use https://www.mojeek.com/ as a first stop, close to the old GOOG but far fewer indexed pages and can be hit and miss so second stop usually https://www.ecosia.org/search

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                            • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                              When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                              @evacide thanks but no thanks

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                              • abetterjulie@wandering.shopA abetterjulie@wandering.shop

                                @evacide this will also kill the rabbit hole. No curiosity. No discovery.

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                                @abetterjulie @evacide Exactly. I sometimes only find my feet after wandering around a bit on a site. I do not want a targeted answered wrapped up by AI.

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                                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                  When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                                  @evacide AGREED!!!

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                                  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                    When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                                    @evacide Not to mention their black box AI gets to interpret the info how big tech wants it to. Billionaires already manipulate algorithms on their social media to push their agendas. You know damn well they will on their AI platforms.

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                                    • R raulmatias@mstdn.social

                                      @nuintari @evacide @kagihq So that your money goes right into Putin's pocket to kill more Ukrainians?[1] No, thanks, there are far more ethical alternatives (searxng, duckduckgo lite) which are also free.

                                      [1]: https://ounapuu.ee/posts/2025/07/17/kagi/

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                                      @raulmatias @nuintari @evacide @kagihq Just found out about https://1.org today.

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                                      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                        When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                                        @evacide
                                        Google Search has been bad for quite a while now.
                                        I switched to DDG 6 years ago when I moved to Linux Mint.
                                        Even DDG can be meh at times, so I ocassionally use qwant or mogeek or ecosia to view alternatives.

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                                        • dukeduke@mastodon.socialD dukeduke@mastodon.social

                                          @evacide I hate everything google. I stopped using their search, maps, and gmail in the 2000s and I haven't missed any of it. As of last year, I finally moved to a Fairphone with /e/OS, so no more google evil in my phone. No one needs google and I'm amazed that anyone still uses their anything.

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                                          @DukeDuke @evacide What do you use for shared document authoring with access controls?

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