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When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me.

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  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

    When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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    @evacide This is why I self-host a SearXNG instance. Too many search engines deciding what I need to see, so I ask them all to get a more complete answer.

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    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

      When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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      @evacide

      Researching for papers always made me happy. Later, I used to Google so deep for so many things. It was my goal to find shit people gave-up looking for. Hell, I used to get a hit on Page 10.
      I collected so many gigs of football uniform reference through Goog and the many small websites hidden in corners that it would find with the right guiding.
      I quit using it entirely maybe 5 years ago.
      Don't get around much. Anymore.

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      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

        When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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        @evacide Agreed. And even if it’s not wrong, it might not be pulling all information from the website. What caveats might people be missing when they only rely on AI overviews? A lot!

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        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

          When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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          @evacide I just changed the default search engine on my phone and will do the same everywhere else once I get back home.

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          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

            When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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            @evacide Ask Jeeves should've hung on a little longer..

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            • sablebadger@dice.campS sablebadger@dice.camp

              @evacide hard agree.

              search engines these days, even when not using AI, aren't returning useful links. It's all "what can I sell you related to your search" instead of "here is the information you requested" and its driving me nuts.

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              @Sablebadger @evacide the other side of the equation is not much better. An increasingly large percentage of results are AI generated trash.

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              • nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                @evacide Welcome to paying for decent search!

                I've been using @kagihq for over a year now.

                The ad ridden bullshit layer is long gone.

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                @nuintari @evacide @kagihq So that your money goes right into Putin's pocket to kill more Ukrainians?[1] No, thanks, there are far more ethical alternatives (searxng, duckduckgo lite) which are also free.

                [1]: https://ounapuu.ee/posts/2025/07/17/kagi/

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                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                  When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                  @evacide https://lite.duckduckgo.com

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                  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                    When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                    @evacide When I was using Safari with duckduck on it, I always turned off AI and search assist. I wouldn't install duck (those settings would've stayed) because last time I did that on my last laptop, I couldn't uninstall it.

                    When I see anything AI, I quickly check what I missed doing. I type out 90% of my typing because I don't want to lose my typing skills or abillity to spell.

                    It's a long way of saying that I totally agree with you.

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                    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                      When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                      @evacide

                      I like Ecosia. You can turn AI off and it plants trees when people use it.

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                      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                        When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                        @evacide

                        Shrug. I switched to duckduckgo years ago.

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                        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                          When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                          @evacide

                          Yeah, I first saw reporting on this kind of thing a month or two ago. Google just decided this is the way the web will work now unilaterally and companies are expected to reshape their websites to provide raw materials for Google to fashion content from.

                          It’s fucking bullshit

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                          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                            When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                            @evacide Not to pimp out my youtube channel, but I did a video on a few Google alternatives a month and a half ago. Could be it's helpful.

                            https://youtu.be/UUOG5c6vyDg

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                            • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                              When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                              @evacide
                              I've started just asking AI to give me links to the websites. Just tell it "give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself".

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                              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                                @evacide it's the end of the world(wide web) as we know it and I feel fine

                                (because I search the whole web less and less and if I do it's not through google)

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                                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                  When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                                  @evacide

                                  Just for fun I tried using the "AI mode" (like there's still another kind), and prefaced my search with "Please give me a classic set of google search results, with absolutely no AI summary, for the following terms:"

                                  I got about ten results. It couldn't resist prefacing it with something like "Here are web results for your query", which technically breached the request.

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                                  • yama@tech.lgbtY yama@tech.lgbt

                                    @evacide At this point imma just give up and masscan 80,443 ports myself and do a hard text search on raw htmls...

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                                    You can technically automate it a bit with something like YaCy: yacy.net
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                                    • L loric@mastodon.social

                                      @evacide This is why I self-host a SearXNG instance. Too many search engines deciding what I need to see, so I ask them all to get a more complete answer.

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                                      Same here! The only complaint I have is the constant rate-limiting, but otherwise, knowing I'm effectively using ALL THE ENGINES (and with none of the LLM slop) is great for my usage case
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                                      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                        When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                                        I switched to Duck Duck Go last week, apparently just in time. Google, once obsessively minimalist and functional, has descended into an ugly pile of crap. I can onlly hope the market gives them what they deserve. 😏

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                                        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                          When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                                          @evacide fuck every single bit of that bullshit.

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