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  • brian_greenberg@infosec.exchangeB brian_greenberg@infosec.exchange

    A startup is putting military-style drones in high school ceilings. Ceiling-mounted. Charging. Waiting. And when something happens, a pilot in Austin, Texas, decides whether to deploy pepper gel on your kid's school. I'm not saying the problem isn't real. It absolutely is. But read that back.... in schools. We've taken a Ukrainian battlefield tactic against Russian soldiers and ported it to Deltona High School in Florida. The co-founder literally said the idea came from watching drone videos of the war in Ukraine. The chief pilot described it as "cheating in a video game after you die." These are children.

    Here's what's not in the headline:

    🔒 The drones use an encrypted connection — but the article notes they're potentially vulnerable to cyberattack. A compromised drone in a crowded hallway isn't a security tool; it's a weapon pointed in the wrong direction.

    ⚖️ Mithril reserves the right to act independently during an attack, without waiting for law enforcement. A private company operating remotely is making use-of-force decisions at a school.

    💰 Florida and Georgia approved $500K+ each for this. A group of Texas parents raised $200K more. That's real money going to ceiling drones instead of mental health services, counselors, or de-escalation programs.

    The ACLU said it plainly: when force becomes a zero-risk remote action, it gets overused. Axon tried a Taser drone for schools in 2022, and its own ethics board killed it. Mithril is picking up where that got dropped.

    I teach cybersecurity. I've spent years in boardrooms helping organizations think through risk. And the risk calculus here isn't just about whether the drone works. It's about what we're normalizing when we turn schools into drone-monitored combat zones and call it progress.

    "This is the future," said the sheriff's captain.

    I hope not.

    https://www.wsj.com/business/a-startup-is-supplying-drones-to-high-schools-a7800ade
    #SchoolSafety #Cybersecurity #Leadership #security #privacy #cloud #infosec

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    @brian_greenberg ...the way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a DRONE WITH A GUN?

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    • brian_greenberg@infosec.exchangeB brian_greenberg@infosec.exchange

      A startup is putting military-style drones in high school ceilings. Ceiling-mounted. Charging. Waiting. And when something happens, a pilot in Austin, Texas, decides whether to deploy pepper gel on your kid's school. I'm not saying the problem isn't real. It absolutely is. But read that back.... in schools. We've taken a Ukrainian battlefield tactic against Russian soldiers and ported it to Deltona High School in Florida. The co-founder literally said the idea came from watching drone videos of the war in Ukraine. The chief pilot described it as "cheating in a video game after you die." These are children.

      Here's what's not in the headline:

      🔒 The drones use an encrypted connection — but the article notes they're potentially vulnerable to cyberattack. A compromised drone in a crowded hallway isn't a security tool; it's a weapon pointed in the wrong direction.

      ⚖️ Mithril reserves the right to act independently during an attack, without waiting for law enforcement. A private company operating remotely is making use-of-force decisions at a school.

      💰 Florida and Georgia approved $500K+ each for this. A group of Texas parents raised $200K more. That's real money going to ceiling drones instead of mental health services, counselors, or de-escalation programs.

      The ACLU said it plainly: when force becomes a zero-risk remote action, it gets overused. Axon tried a Taser drone for schools in 2022, and its own ethics board killed it. Mithril is picking up where that got dropped.

      I teach cybersecurity. I've spent years in boardrooms helping organizations think through risk. And the risk calculus here isn't just about whether the drone works. It's about what we're normalizing when we turn schools into drone-monitored combat zones and call it progress.

      "This is the future," said the sheriff's captain.

      I hope not.

      https://www.wsj.com/business/a-startup-is-supplying-drones-to-high-schools-a7800ade
      #SchoolSafety #Cybersecurity #Leadership #security #privacy #cloud #infosec

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      #31

      @brian_greenberg isn’t Mithril another Lord of the Rings reference?

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        @LukefromDC @sfoskett @brian_greenberg but they don't have a state mandate to use violence

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        • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

          @brian_greenberg post reads like AI slop, in case it is, please learn better

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          @ariarhythmic @brian_greenberg His pinned post is AI-boosting, so... 🤔

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          • cmdrmoto@hachyderm.ioC cmdrmoto@hachyderm.io

            @brian_greenberg Original link 404s for me.

            This appears to be the same news?
            https://www.wsj.com/business/a-startup-is-supplying-drones-to-high-schools-to-stop-mass-shootings-a7800ade

            The short film Slaughterbots was not meant to be an instruction manual ☹️

            https://youtu.be/O-2tpwW0kmU

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            @cmdrmoto @brian_greenberg I am constantly surprised that no one has deployed these thing irl yet

            They are eminently feasible

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            • staringatclouds@mstdn.socialS staringatclouds@mstdn.social

              @cmdrmoto @brian_greenberg I am constantly surprised that no one has deployed these thing irl yet

              They are eminently feasible

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              @staringatclouds @brian_greenberg shutupshutupshutupshutup

              MOTHERFUCKER.

              Please.

              Don’t even think it.

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              • nilrori@mstdn.socialN nilrori@mstdn.social

                @brian_greenberg They will do literally anything, but solve the real, underlying issue of school shootings…

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                @nilrori @brian_greenberg these are meant to stop school shootings the same way the Fourth Crusade was meant to protect Christendom.

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                • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                  @brian_greenberg isn’t Mithril another Lord of the Rings reference?

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                  @blogdiva @brian_greenberg Yeah the Elven light and superstrong armor.

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                  • cmdrmoto@hachyderm.ioC cmdrmoto@hachyderm.io

                    @staringatclouds @brian_greenberg shutupshutupshutupshutup

                    MOTHERFUCKER.

                    Please.

                    Don’t even think it.

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                    @cmdrmoto @brian_greenberg I'm trying not to

                    Sorry 🫂

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                    • brian_greenberg@infosec.exchangeB brian_greenberg@infosec.exchange

                      A startup is putting military-style drones in high school ceilings. Ceiling-mounted. Charging. Waiting. And when something happens, a pilot in Austin, Texas, decides whether to deploy pepper gel on your kid's school. I'm not saying the problem isn't real. It absolutely is. But read that back.... in schools. We've taken a Ukrainian battlefield tactic against Russian soldiers and ported it to Deltona High School in Florida. The co-founder literally said the idea came from watching drone videos of the war in Ukraine. The chief pilot described it as "cheating in a video game after you die." These are children.

                      Here's what's not in the headline:

                      🔒 The drones use an encrypted connection — but the article notes they're potentially vulnerable to cyberattack. A compromised drone in a crowded hallway isn't a security tool; it's a weapon pointed in the wrong direction.

                      ⚖️ Mithril reserves the right to act independently during an attack, without waiting for law enforcement. A private company operating remotely is making use-of-force decisions at a school.

                      💰 Florida and Georgia approved $500K+ each for this. A group of Texas parents raised $200K more. That's real money going to ceiling drones instead of mental health services, counselors, or de-escalation programs.

                      The ACLU said it plainly: when force becomes a zero-risk remote action, it gets overused. Axon tried a Taser drone for schools in 2022, and its own ethics board killed it. Mithril is picking up where that got dropped.

                      I teach cybersecurity. I've spent years in boardrooms helping organizations think through risk. And the risk calculus here isn't just about whether the drone works. It's about what we're normalizing when we turn schools into drone-monitored combat zones and call it progress.

                      "This is the future," said the sheriff's captain.

                      I hope not.

                      https://www.wsj.com/business/a-startup-is-supplying-drones-to-high-schools-a7800ade
                      #SchoolSafety #Cybersecurity #Leadership #security #privacy #cloud #infosec

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                      @brian_greenberg the link doesn't work

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                      • netraven@hear-me.socialN netraven@hear-me.social

                        @brian_greenberg this is pure comedy, I just have to add. The kids will absolutely LOVE hacking these and flying them in exactly that manner, PURE CHAOS MODE.

                        Back in my day, we just pulled the fire alarm. Jesus christ, I can't stop laughing.

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                        @Netraven @brian_greenberg
                        Sheriff: “but it’s encrypted; kids can’t take control”
                        Kid1: “imma crack open the gas cartridge”
                        Kid2: “how well do they fly with paint on the lens and clipped props/wires?”
                        Kid3: “let’s open one outside of principal’s home A/C unit.”
                        Kid4: “any cool parts we can sell for beer money?”

                        … meanwhile, 99% of drones sit unused, eventually the batts decay. At best, it still becomes a hazmat disposal cost.

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                        • inkomtech@infosec.exchangeI inkomtech@infosec.exchange

                          @Netraven @brian_greenberg
                          Sheriff: “but it’s encrypted; kids can’t take control”
                          Kid1: “imma crack open the gas cartridge”
                          Kid2: “how well do they fly with paint on the lens and clipped props/wires?”
                          Kid3: “let’s open one outside of principal’s home A/C unit.”
                          Kid4: “any cool parts we can sell for beer money?”

                          … meanwhile, 99% of drones sit unused, eventually the batts decay. At best, it still becomes a hazmat disposal cost.

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                          @InkomTech @brian_greenberg I'm thinking of the new high school hazing of slipping an item onto a person which has a dark body thermal profile like that of a weapon and have it false alarm on unsuspecting people.

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                          • inkomtech@infosec.exchangeI inkomtech@infosec.exchange

                            @Netraven @brian_greenberg
                            Sheriff: “but it’s encrypted; kids can’t take control”
                            Kid1: “imma crack open the gas cartridge”
                            Kid2: “how well do they fly with paint on the lens and clipped props/wires?”
                            Kid3: “let’s open one outside of principal’s home A/C unit.”
                            Kid4: “any cool parts we can sell for beer money?”

                            … meanwhile, 99% of drones sit unused, eventually the batts decay. At best, it still becomes a hazmat disposal cost.

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                            @Netraven @brian_greenberg shit…

                            Kid5: “we 3d printed a zipgun /arduino-based flyer that uses drone parts. And here’s the faraday cage for stealing them.”

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                            • inkomtech@infosec.exchangeI inkomtech@infosec.exchange

                              @Netraven @brian_greenberg shit…

                              Kid5: “we 3d printed a zipgun /arduino-based flyer that uses drone parts. And here’s the faraday cage for stealing them.”

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                              @InkomTech @brian_greenberg if it's in Compton, the kids will need the zip guns to fight backs against school security with their AR-15s.

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                              • brian_greenberg@infosec.exchangeB brian_greenberg@infosec.exchange

                                A startup is putting military-style drones in high school ceilings. Ceiling-mounted. Charging. Waiting. And when something happens, a pilot in Austin, Texas, decides whether to deploy pepper gel on your kid's school. I'm not saying the problem isn't real. It absolutely is. But read that back.... in schools. We've taken a Ukrainian battlefield tactic against Russian soldiers and ported it to Deltona High School in Florida. The co-founder literally said the idea came from watching drone videos of the war in Ukraine. The chief pilot described it as "cheating in a video game after you die." These are children.

                                Here's what's not in the headline:

                                🔒 The drones use an encrypted connection — but the article notes they're potentially vulnerable to cyberattack. A compromised drone in a crowded hallway isn't a security tool; it's a weapon pointed in the wrong direction.

                                ⚖️ Mithril reserves the right to act independently during an attack, without waiting for law enforcement. A private company operating remotely is making use-of-force decisions at a school.

                                💰 Florida and Georgia approved $500K+ each for this. A group of Texas parents raised $200K more. That's real money going to ceiling drones instead of mental health services, counselors, or de-escalation programs.

                                The ACLU said it plainly: when force becomes a zero-risk remote action, it gets overused. Axon tried a Taser drone for schools in 2022, and its own ethics board killed it. Mithril is picking up where that got dropped.

                                I teach cybersecurity. I've spent years in boardrooms helping organizations think through risk. And the risk calculus here isn't just about whether the drone works. It's about what we're normalizing when we turn schools into drone-monitored combat zones and call it progress.

                                "This is the future," said the sheriff's captain.

                                I hope not.

                                https://www.wsj.com/business/a-startup-is-supplying-drones-to-high-schools-a7800ade
                                #SchoolSafety #Cybersecurity #Leadership #security #privacy #cloud #infosec

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                                @brian_greenberg What could go wrong here?

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                                • inkyschwartz@mastodon.socialI inkyschwartz@mastodon.social

                                  @blogdiva @brian_greenberg Yeah the Elven light and superstrong armor.

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                                  @InkySchwartz @blogdiva @brian_greenberg Kinda, it's a metal.

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                                  • brian_greenberg@infosec.exchangeB brian_greenberg@infosec.exchange

                                    A startup is putting military-style drones in high school ceilings. Ceiling-mounted. Charging. Waiting. And when something happens, a pilot in Austin, Texas, decides whether to deploy pepper gel on your kid's school. I'm not saying the problem isn't real. It absolutely is. But read that back.... in schools. We've taken a Ukrainian battlefield tactic against Russian soldiers and ported it to Deltona High School in Florida. The co-founder literally said the idea came from watching drone videos of the war in Ukraine. The chief pilot described it as "cheating in a video game after you die." These are children.

                                    Here's what's not in the headline:

                                    🔒 The drones use an encrypted connection — but the article notes they're potentially vulnerable to cyberattack. A compromised drone in a crowded hallway isn't a security tool; it's a weapon pointed in the wrong direction.

                                    ⚖️ Mithril reserves the right to act independently during an attack, without waiting for law enforcement. A private company operating remotely is making use-of-force decisions at a school.

                                    💰 Florida and Georgia approved $500K+ each for this. A group of Texas parents raised $200K more. That's real money going to ceiling drones instead of mental health services, counselors, or de-escalation programs.

                                    The ACLU said it plainly: when force becomes a zero-risk remote action, it gets overused. Axon tried a Taser drone for schools in 2022, and its own ethics board killed it. Mithril is picking up where that got dropped.

                                    I teach cybersecurity. I've spent years in boardrooms helping organizations think through risk. And the risk calculus here isn't just about whether the drone works. It's about what we're normalizing when we turn schools into drone-monitored combat zones and call it progress.

                                    "This is the future," said the sheriff's captain.

                                    I hope not.

                                    https://www.wsj.com/business/a-startup-is-supplying-drones-to-high-schools-a7800ade
                                    #SchoolSafety #Cybersecurity #Leadership #security #privacy #cloud #infosec

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                                    @brian_greenberg Would be interesting to see the amount being spent on crowd control vs actual education.
                                    Just wait till these things expire, batteries die, degrade after sitting 3 months in the summer heat etc.
                                    Oh the maintenance contract! Including the legal costs for this, including the parental waivers signed each year to consent to have your child potentially be exposed to the effects of this system.

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                                    • brian_greenberg@infosec.exchangeB brian_greenberg@infosec.exchange

                                      A startup is putting military-style drones in high school ceilings. Ceiling-mounted. Charging. Waiting. And when something happens, a pilot in Austin, Texas, decides whether to deploy pepper gel on your kid's school. I'm not saying the problem isn't real. It absolutely is. But read that back.... in schools. We've taken a Ukrainian battlefield tactic against Russian soldiers and ported it to Deltona High School in Florida. The co-founder literally said the idea came from watching drone videos of the war in Ukraine. The chief pilot described it as "cheating in a video game after you die." These are children.

                                      Here's what's not in the headline:

                                      🔒 The drones use an encrypted connection — but the article notes they're potentially vulnerable to cyberattack. A compromised drone in a crowded hallway isn't a security tool; it's a weapon pointed in the wrong direction.

                                      ⚖️ Mithril reserves the right to act independently during an attack, without waiting for law enforcement. A private company operating remotely is making use-of-force decisions at a school.

                                      💰 Florida and Georgia approved $500K+ each for this. A group of Texas parents raised $200K more. That's real money going to ceiling drones instead of mental health services, counselors, or de-escalation programs.

                                      The ACLU said it plainly: when force becomes a zero-risk remote action, it gets overused. Axon tried a Taser drone for schools in 2022, and its own ethics board killed it. Mithril is picking up where that got dropped.

                                      I teach cybersecurity. I've spent years in boardrooms helping organizations think through risk. And the risk calculus here isn't just about whether the drone works. It's about what we're normalizing when we turn schools into drone-monitored combat zones and call it progress.

                                      "This is the future," said the sheriff's captain.

                                      I hope not.

                                      https://www.wsj.com/business/a-startup-is-supplying-drones-to-high-schools-a7800ade
                                      #SchoolSafety #Cybersecurity #Leadership #security #privacy #cloud #infosec

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                                      @brian_greenberg I'm sure their business strategy has been written in the black tongue of Mordor...

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