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  3. hey fedi i'm trying to coax more people over here from bluesky.

hey fedi i'm trying to coax more people over here from bluesky.

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    hey fedi i'm trying to coax more people over here from bluesky. someone asked for advice on how to start from scratch here. so leave your replies and i'll link this post over there (so yes, your reply will be seen by people there)

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    @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    post some things before doing an intro post so ppl can see the kind of things that will show up on their timeline if they follow you

    don't post or boost pol, especially uspol, without content warnings, do not listen to the "my opinions are too important for content warnings" liberals who tell you you don't need cw because of hashtags, content warnings were specifically invented to warn of content

    be patient, no algorithm so it takes more time to find good people to follow
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    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

      hey fedi i'm trying to coax more people over here from bluesky. someone asked for advice on how to start from scratch here. so leave your replies and i'll link this post over there (so yes, your reply will be seen by people there)

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      my personal fedi tips include:

      - follow some hashtags (#CatsOfMastodon is pretty good)

      - use mute liberally. if you click "show options" you can do a timed mute that expires automatically, and or can only mute someone's posts but not their replies to you

      - make a filter called like "00 filtered posts". then when you want to hide a post click the meatballs menu on the bottom right (3 dots), click filter this post, then type 00 and click your filtered posts filter

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      • 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place0 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place

        @eniko

        2) Get ready that there is NO algorithm to bring you "content" to consume like a good consumer. Mastodon is more akin to the old Twitter, where you needed to follow people to get your feed filled with cool posts.

        3) There IS a centralized feed, filled with posts from the whole federation and your instance, but what's more important is you need to follow people and follow hashtags to shape your feed to be more of what you want to see than to what's hot right now on your instance

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        @eniko

        4) Use tags

        5) Please, for the love of any entity you worship, u s e t a g s

        6) Like, seriously, find out good tags to follow: gamedev, art, 3d, blender, gaming and just follow them

        7) Tag your posts to reach people interested in the same things you do

        😎 Blocks are free. But be aware that technically they are public (instances exchange this among each other). Mutes however are not public. And they are also free.

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        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

          hey fedi i'm trying to coax more people over here from bluesky. someone asked for advice on how to start from scratch here. so leave your replies and i'll link this post over there (so yes, your reply will be seen by people there)

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          @eniko transition help for me is bridging mastadon and bluesky using @bsky.brid.gy , both from your bluesky account & encouraging bluesky mutuals to do the same so you can keep following them

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          • 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place0 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @eniko

            4) Use tags

            5) Please, for the love of any entity you worship, u s e t a g s

            6) Like, seriously, find out good tags to follow: gamedev, art, 3d, blender, gaming and just follow them

            7) Tag your posts to reach people interested in the same things you do

            😎 Blocks are free. But be aware that technically they are public (instances exchange this among each other). Mutes however are not public. And they are also free.

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            @eniko

            9) Some instances have increased symbol limits, some instances have markdown formatting

            10) ALT text is important

            11) Sometimes admins of your instance might block the other instance. Be it for the good will (there are some wild instances around here) or just a result of a pissing match, you can't follow anyone on the blocked instance. If that's important, might as well move to the less strict instance.

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            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

              hey fedi i'm trying to coax more people over here from bluesky. someone asked for advice on how to start from scratch here. so leave your replies and i'll link this post over there (so yes, your reply will be seen by people there)

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              @eniko i've been meaning to write a full guide on moving to fedi on my website. my personal advise is to just follow as many people as you can. if you find anyone who seems even somewhat interesting, follow them. since fedi doesn't have an algorithm, it's important to have plenty of posts on your home timeline instead. just make sure to read bios and complete any special requests before sending a follow request to someone
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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                hey fedi i'm trying to coax more people over here from bluesky. someone asked for advice on how to start from scratch here. so leave your replies and i'll link this post over there (so yes, your reply will be seen by people there)

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                @eniko
                IMO the most important advice is: be patient!

                Take your time, don't expect too much in the first few days or even weeks!

                The fediverse does not try to grab your attention like common social media do. Until you have got into it, sometimes it might even feel a bit boring. Over here there are no tools to *keep you interested*, since the fediverse does not get more revenue the longer you stay here. Actually, there is no *here* at all. It's a federation of thousands of separate heres.)

                You have total control. That means that you might have to work a little bit to establish whom to follow.

                The other advices: be kind; try hashtags.

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                • mjdxp@labyrinth.zoneM mjdxp@labyrinth.zone
                  @eniko i've been meaning to write a full guide on moving to fedi on my website. my personal advise is to just follow as many people as you can. if you find anyone who seems even somewhat interesting, follow them. since fedi doesn't have an algorithm, it's important to have plenty of posts on your home timeline instead. just make sure to read bios and complete any special requests before sending a follow request to someone
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                  @mjdxp this is particularly good advice imo

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    hey fedi i'm trying to coax more people over here from bluesky. someone asked for advice on how to start from scratch here. so leave your replies and i'll link this post over there (so yes, your reply will be seen by people there)

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                    @eniko talk to people who seem cool + see who theyre talking to. it is that shrimple

                    read bios and pinned before following _especially_ if its a locked account, the most interesting people do not take kindly to cold follows out of nowhere. doubly so if you're new. talk to people first, get acquainted w/ the culture

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                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      my personal fedi tips include:

                      - follow some hashtags (#CatsOfMastodon is pretty good)

                      - use mute liberally. if you click "show options" you can do a timed mute that expires automatically, and or can only mute someone's posts but not their replies to you

                      - make a filter called like "00 filtered posts". then when you want to hide a post click the meatballs menu on the bottom right (3 dots), click filter this post, then type 00 and click your filtered posts filter

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                      and one last bit of advice: *most* instances do not have "on-topic" rules, i.e. if you're on a gamedev server you're not expected to *only* talk about gamedev

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        and one last bit of advice: *most* instances do not have "on-topic" rules, i.e. if you're on a gamedev server you're not expected to *only* talk about gamedev

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                        @eniko In fact: Do shitpost.

                        The idea that there's no shitposting on here comes from journalists who joined the biggest instance, followed the ten journalist accounts they follow everywhere and saw no shitposting.

                        Since there's no "For You"-style feed, what you see is what your follows post and boost, so if you only follow strictly business accounts you'll only see strictly business.

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                        • bean@twoot.siteB bean@twoot.site

                          @eniko In fact: Do shitpost.

                          The idea that there's no shitposting on here comes from journalists who joined the biggest instance, followed the ten journalist accounts they follow everywhere and saw no shitposting.

                          Since there's no "For You"-style feed, what you see is what your follows post and boost, so if you only follow strictly business accounts you'll only see strictly business.

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                          @bean it is very important to shitpost

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            hey fedi i'm trying to coax more people over here from bluesky. someone asked for advice on how to start from scratch here. so leave your replies and i'll link this post over there (so yes, your reply will be seen by people there)

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                            @eniko
                            Another option for finding people to follow is to check out the timelines on other servers, for example https://wandering.shop/public/local for SF&F

                            Some of the apps (eg. Fedilab) have this as built-in functionality ("Manage timelines"), or you can do it on the web

                            #FediTips

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                            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              hey fedi i'm trying to coax more people over here from bluesky. someone asked for advice on how to start from scratch here. so leave your replies and i'll link this post over there (so yes, your reply will be seen by people there)

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                              @eniko
                              I'm used to shifting services and platforms when things don't satisfy my expectations.
                              - Check your mutual contacts to see who you might know already is here and what instance they're on.
                              - Choose a reputable instance, you can always migrate later.
                              - Make a clear and easy to see notice/link so your followers and mutuals know where to find you. This is easier if you have a site.
                              - Make use of tags in your post, but also follow tags you're interested in.
                              - Alt text is HIGHLY encouraged.

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                              • andyprice@mastodon.socialA andyprice@mastodon.social

                                @eniko You could promise to create a Mastodon "Collection" of people to follow when that feature finally gets rolled out.

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                                @andyprice @eniko well there’s https://fedidevs.com/starter-packs/?q=gamedev&order_by=popular_day for example

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                                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  and one last bit of advice: *most* instances do not have "on-topic" rules, i.e. if you're on a gamedev server you're not expected to *only* talk about gamedev

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                                  @eniko I don't know if anyone officially encourages this, but my feeling is that posting something off-topic on that kind of server probably adds some welcome variety. I joined mastodon.sdf.org because it was a general purpose server, and it still seems to skew towards retrocomputing regardless.

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                                  • tealfuleyes@mastodon.artT tealfuleyes@mastodon.art

                                    @eniko
                                    I'm used to shifting services and platforms when things don't satisfy my expectations.
                                    - Check your mutual contacts to see who you might know already is here and what instance they're on.
                                    - Choose a reputable instance, you can always migrate later.
                                    - Make a clear and easy to see notice/link so your followers and mutuals know where to find you. This is easier if you have a site.
                                    - Make use of tags in your post, but also follow tags you're interested in.
                                    - Alt text is HIGHLY encouraged.

                                    tealfuleyes@mastodon.artT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @eniko
                                    - Don't be afraid to ask for help. Most people in my experience are gladly willing to explain features and options.
                                    - Ultimately the name of the game is shaping your experience with "intention". There is a kind of "firehose" feed that spits out EVERYTHING, but for the beat experience curating your timeline and making conscious choices with how and what you want out of your space is generally in your hands.
                                    - Also make backups of your profile just in case your instance goes poof.

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                                    • 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place0 0x0961h@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      @eniko

                                      4) Use tags

                                      5) Please, for the love of any entity you worship, u s e t a g s

                                      6) Like, seriously, find out good tags to follow: gamedev, art, 3d, blender, gaming and just follow them

                                      7) Tag your posts to reach people interested in the same things you do

                                      😎 Blocks are free. But be aware that technically they are public (instances exchange this among each other). Mutes however are not public. And they are also free.

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                                      @0x0961h @eniko
                                      The other thing about using tags is that it lets people filter things out, whether because they're not interested, or because they are interested and they need to pick their battles and already have too many battles

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                                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        and one last bit of advice: *most* instances do not have "on-topic" rules, i.e. if you're on a gamedev server you're not expected to *only* talk about gamedev

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                                        @eniko don't start at .social. many servers block that awful, unmoderated mess.

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                                        • tealfuleyes@mastodon.artT tealfuleyes@mastodon.art

                                          @eniko
                                          - Don't be afraid to ask for help. Most people in my experience are gladly willing to explain features and options.
                                          - Ultimately the name of the game is shaping your experience with "intention". There is a kind of "firehose" feed that spits out EVERYTHING, but for the beat experience curating your timeline and making conscious choices with how and what you want out of your space is generally in your hands.
                                          - Also make backups of your profile just in case your instance goes poof.

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                                          @eniko Some tips that artists specifically might want to read.
                                          - Mastodon.art is probably the easiest instance option to start with.
                                          - As you add tags you can see how often a tag is used, but common tags I've seen work best are Art, traditional/digital art, and MastoArt.
                                          - You can change the focal point to generally adjust the cropping/scaling on timelines.
                                          - You can use custom content warnings for your post if you feel your subject matter is something specific you want to warn people about.

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