I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
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@MLE_online They do mention the increase in price, but it's towards the end of the article:
"Dustin Lancaster operates or is a partner in a dozen restaurants and bars in Los Angeles. He thinks that when trying to figure out Gen Z’s habits, many operators forget to consider cost. When Mr. Lancaster would go out after work in his early 20s, a whiskey and a beer were seven or eight bucks. Now, it could be pushing $20."
@samirparikh yea, they really buried the lede there
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@DonChacale It's still too hard to completely stop using google. The other two are pretty doable
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is it? i use brave browser. or are you saying weeding out all tentacles of google?
i put a graphene os on a old pixel phone. had linux installed on 2 chromebooks.... -
I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online also maybe it's a good thing that people don't constantly poison themselves with a substance that's more dangerous than many "hard" drugs? I'm so sorry that your business that relevantly involves *checks notes* serving toxic drinks to almost all customers is not that profitable anymore.
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There's a burrito place near me that I really like, that I've been eating at for years. I used to go once a week or so, but since the pandemic, the price of a burrito went from $5 to $11, and that's just too much! I eat there once every few months now. It doesn't mean I don't like burritos though.
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is it? i use brave browser. or are you saying weeding out all tentacles of google?
i put a graphene os on a old pixel phone. had linux installed on 2 chromebooks....@DonChacale it is. There's not really a good alternative to google maps, for example, and even though i use duckduckgo for my searching, it fails enough that i still have to use google for some searching. And my community college uses gmail for student email accounts. Google has its fingers in a lot of things
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@MLE_online also maybe it's a good thing that people don't constantly poison themselves with a substance that's more dangerous than many "hard" drugs? I'm so sorry that your business that relevantly involves *checks notes* serving toxic drinks to almost all customers is not that profitable anymore.
@ljrk No, I like drinking lol.
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Is Naugles still a thing in Southern California?@TTFKA_Tay0 I don't think so, I believe I've heard of that as like an old timey del taco competitor, but I've never seen one
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
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@TTFKA_Tay0 I don't think so, I believe I've heard of that as like an old timey del taco competitor, but I've never seen one
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@DonChacale it is. There's not really a good alternative to google maps, for example, and even though i use duckduckgo for my searching, it fails enough that i still have to use google for some searching. And my community college uses gmail for student email accounts. Google has its fingers in a lot of things
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peek around. keep trying. thats where i am at in my journey. (trying as much as i can, knowing its ardous and a bit of a slog) i downloaded tomtom maps on my phone. works pretty darn good. -
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peek around. keep trying. thats where i am at in my journey. (trying as much as i can, knowing its ardous and a bit of a slog) i downloaded tomtom maps on my phone. works pretty darn good.@DonChacale I have tried some options and I didn't find any of them to be that good
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@DonChacale I have tried some options and I didn't find any of them to be that good
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i will be experimenting with this one next... fyi
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They had the best burritos when I lived there.@MLE_online
Now I know why you associated them with Del Taco. They're gone but sort of revived. -
I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online Reminds me of a headline from The Onion awhile back. Something like: Local bar supports the sober community by offering $16 mocktails.
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@ljrk No, I like drinking lol.
@MLE_online Yes, and it ruins people's lives. I'm not advocating for a ban, but pretending less people drinking is something inherently bad is very much outside of the "responsibly dealing with drugs" category.
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There are limits, and if I can buy two bottles of vodka from the grocery store for the price of a single cocktail, I'm going to opt to not have that cocktail most of the time
@MLE_online Same. I don't think one old-fashioned should cost more than a bottle of bourbon.
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I keep seeing articles like this, about how people choosing to drink less is hurting bars and restaurants, and it's almost always framed as people, especially younger generations, don't like to drink.
They never seem to bring up the fact that a cocktail is like $20 now unless you go to a really divey dive bar. It's the same kind of reporting they on how no one goes to the movies anymore. It's always about changing habits, and never that movie tickets just cost a lot now.
@MLE_online you know what else they don’t mention? How despite this very well known trend restaurants still refuse to offer non-alcoholic cocktail options. Teetotalers like myself often get stuck with options like soda that frankly I’d rather just buy cheaper and drink at home since there’s nothing fun about it.
I think almost every restaurant I go to with non-alcoholic cocktails/unique drinks I have purchased something.
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@MLE_online you know what else they don’t mention? How despite this very well known trend restaurants still refuse to offer non-alcoholic cocktail options. Teetotalers like myself often get stuck with options like soda that frankly I’d rather just buy cheaper and drink at home since there’s nothing fun about it.
I think almost every restaurant I go to with non-alcoholic cocktails/unique drinks I have purchased something.
@derekheld that's seems like a different story than this one
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@gneilyo Right? Rent for business spaces is crazy high in a lot of cities now, but you never hear them making a stink about that in public
@MLE_online @gneilyo I read that in Dallas rent includes some percentage of the restaurants take. That is completely insane to me. Like why should the rent increase because you're more successful? Restaurants should put that breakdown on the bill.
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@MLE_online Yes, and it ruins people's lives. I'm not advocating for a ban, but pretending less people drinking is something inherently bad is very much outside of the "responsibly dealing with drugs" category.
@ljrk if you think people should drink less, that's fine, but it's a different issue than what i am talking about
