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For years we've been told that grand juries in the US are just a rubber stamp for prosecutors (i.e. that they will indict even pork-based comestibles).

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    For years we've been told that grand juries in the US are just a rubber stamp for prosecutors (i.e. that they will indict even pork-based comestibles). But increasingly what we're seeing is that grand juries are the last line of defense against an administration that is hellbent on perverting the justice system. From the NYT:

    "Federal prosecutors in Washington sought and failed on Tuesday to secure an indictment against six Democratic lawmakers who posted a video this fall that enraged President Trump by reminding active-duty members of the military and intelligence community that they were obligated to refuse illegal orders, four people familiar with the matter said."

    "It was remarkable that the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington — led by Jeanine Pirro, a longtime ally of Mr. Trump’s — authorized prosecutors to go into a grand jury and ask for an indictment of the six members of Congress, all of whom had served in the military or the nation’s spy agencies."

    "But it was even more remarkable that a group of ordinary citizens sitting on the grand jury in Federal District Court in Washington forcefully rejected Mr. Trump’s bid to label their expression of dissent as a criminal act warranting prosecution."

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      For years we've been told that grand juries in the US are just a rubber stamp for prosecutors (i.e. that they will indict even pork-based comestibles). But increasingly what we're seeing is that grand juries are the last line of defense against an administration that is hellbent on perverting the justice system. From the NYT:

      "Federal prosecutors in Washington sought and failed on Tuesday to secure an indictment against six Democratic lawmakers who posted a video this fall that enraged President Trump by reminding active-duty members of the military and intelligence community that they were obligated to refuse illegal orders, four people familiar with the matter said."

      "It was remarkable that the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington — led by Jeanine Pirro, a longtime ally of Mr. Trump’s — authorized prosecutors to go into a grand jury and ask for an indictment of the six members of Congress, all of whom had served in the military or the nation’s spy agencies."

      "But it was even more remarkable that a group of ordinary citizens sitting on the grand jury in Federal District Court in Washington forcefully rejected Mr. Trump’s bid to label their expression of dissent as a criminal act warranting prosecution."

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      @briankrebs

      Pirro should maybe stop Chelebrating her assured victories for 3 days BEFORE actually, you know, securing those indictments.

      Can D.C. embargo box wine until she gets SOMEthing right?
      100% failure rate like hers would drive a weaker person to drink. Much less.

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        For years we've been told that grand juries in the US are just a rubber stamp for prosecutors (i.e. that they will indict even pork-based comestibles). But increasingly what we're seeing is that grand juries are the last line of defense against an administration that is hellbent on perverting the justice system. From the NYT:

        "Federal prosecutors in Washington sought and failed on Tuesday to secure an indictment against six Democratic lawmakers who posted a video this fall that enraged President Trump by reminding active-duty members of the military and intelligence community that they were obligated to refuse illegal orders, four people familiar with the matter said."

        "It was remarkable that the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington — led by Jeanine Pirro, a longtime ally of Mr. Trump’s — authorized prosecutors to go into a grand jury and ask for an indictment of the six members of Congress, all of whom had served in the military or the nation’s spy agencies."

        "But it was even more remarkable that a group of ordinary citizens sitting on the grand jury in Federal District Court in Washington forcefully rejected Mr. Trump’s bid to label their expression of dissent as a criminal act warranting prosecution."

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        @briankrebs Turns out that even a rubber stamp requires that there be some ink on the pad and in this case it was dry as a bone.

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          For years we've been told that grand juries in the US are just a rubber stamp for prosecutors (i.e. that they will indict even pork-based comestibles). But increasingly what we're seeing is that grand juries are the last line of defense against an administration that is hellbent on perverting the justice system. From the NYT:

          "Federal prosecutors in Washington sought and failed on Tuesday to secure an indictment against six Democratic lawmakers who posted a video this fall that enraged President Trump by reminding active-duty members of the military and intelligence community that they were obligated to refuse illegal orders, four people familiar with the matter said."

          "It was remarkable that the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington — led by Jeanine Pirro, a longtime ally of Mr. Trump’s — authorized prosecutors to go into a grand jury and ask for an indictment of the six members of Congress, all of whom had served in the military or the nation’s spy agencies."

          "But it was even more remarkable that a group of ordinary citizens sitting on the grand jury in Federal District Court in Washington forcefully rejected Mr. Trump’s bid to label their expression of dissent as a criminal act warranting prosecution."

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          The executive attempting to indict lawmakers for speech is like a whole thing. We fought a war about this. Hell, England fought a war about this.

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            For years we've been told that grand juries in the US are just a rubber stamp for prosecutors (i.e. that they will indict even pork-based comestibles). But increasingly what we're seeing is that grand juries are the last line of defense against an administration that is hellbent on perverting the justice system. From the NYT:

            "Federal prosecutors in Washington sought and failed on Tuesday to secure an indictment against six Democratic lawmakers who posted a video this fall that enraged President Trump by reminding active-duty members of the military and intelligence community that they were obligated to refuse illegal orders, four people familiar with the matter said."

            "It was remarkable that the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington — led by Jeanine Pirro, a longtime ally of Mr. Trump’s — authorized prosecutors to go into a grand jury and ask for an indictment of the six members of Congress, all of whom had served in the military or the nation’s spy agencies."

            "But it was even more remarkable that a group of ordinary citizens sitting on the grand jury in Federal District Court in Washington forcefully rejected Mr. Trump’s bid to label their expression of dissent as a criminal act warranting prosecution."

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            @briankrebs

            Its so depressing reading about the state of things in the US.

            There are so many deplorable people. <smh>

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              For years we've been told that grand juries in the US are just a rubber stamp for prosecutors (i.e. that they will indict even pork-based comestibles). But increasingly what we're seeing is that grand juries are the last line of defense against an administration that is hellbent on perverting the justice system. From the NYT:

              "Federal prosecutors in Washington sought and failed on Tuesday to secure an indictment against six Democratic lawmakers who posted a video this fall that enraged President Trump by reminding active-duty members of the military and intelligence community that they were obligated to refuse illegal orders, four people familiar with the matter said."

              "It was remarkable that the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington — led by Jeanine Pirro, a longtime ally of Mr. Trump’s — authorized prosecutors to go into a grand jury and ask for an indictment of the six members of Congress, all of whom had served in the military or the nation’s spy agencies."

              "But it was even more remarkable that a group of ordinary citizens sitting on the grand jury in Federal District Court in Washington forcefully rejected Mr. Trump’s bid to label their expression of dissent as a criminal act warranting prosecution."

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              @briankrebs

              Now the US Justice Department needs to start prosecuting their own lawbreakers within the Trump admin, don't you think?

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