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  • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

    @Space_Burger_Steve @txtechnician @gabrielesvelto

    What a weird concept, social media owned by a non profit. I don't think it could scale.

    What if instead of one social media site, someone were to make a protocol where a bunch of smaller ones that are a reasonable size to be run by a nonprofit or co op can talk to each other as if they were one big network?

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    @gbargoud @Space_Burger_Steve @txtechnician @gabrielesvelto

    You could almost call it a 'federation' 😉, but without the 'starfleet command' bit.

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      @gabrielesvelto Banninq billionaires from owning anything 👍

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        @gabrielesvelto ban billionaires from existing

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        • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

          @StaticR

          There are probably some teenager-run Fedi sites. So that's already a thing!

          @gabrielesvelto

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          @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto maybe I should set up one for my teen!

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          • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

            @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto maybe I should set up one for my teen!

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            @ricci

            I take it your teen isn't interested in doing it themselves?

            I know I'd have been all over it when I was that age. I'd have been all, “I could run my own social media site? HOLY S**T WHERE DO I SIGN?!?”

            Sadly I was on dialup…

            @StaticR @gabrielesvelto

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            • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

              @ricci

              I take it your teen isn't interested in doing it themselves?

              I know I'd have been all over it when I was that age. I'd have been all, “I could run my own social media site? HOLY S**T WHERE DO I SIGN?!?”

              Sadly I was on dialup…

              @StaticR @gabrielesvelto

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              @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto I had a buddy who ran a BBS out of his house in high school...

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              • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto I had a buddy who ran a BBS out of his house in high school...

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                @ricci @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto
                Yeah, late 90s when I was in high school, a bunch of the local BBSes were run by high school students.

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                • silvermoon82@wandering.shopS silvermoon82@wandering.shop

                  @ricci @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto
                  Yeah, late 90s when I was in high school, a bunch of the local BBSes were run by high school students.

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                  @silvermoon82

                  And now we have all manner of whimsical Fedi sites, at least some of which are almost certainly run by teens.

                  Nature is healing!

                  @ricci @StaticR @gabrielesvelto

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                  • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                    @silvermoon82

                    And now we have all manner of whimsical Fedi sites, at least some of which are almost certainly run by teens.

                    Nature is healing!

                    @ricci @StaticR @gabrielesvelto

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                    @silvermoon82

                    Grass grows, sun shines, birds fly, and nerdy kids operate fun network servers.

                    @ricci @StaticR @gabrielesvelto

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                    • silvermoon82@wandering.shopS silvermoon82@wandering.shop

                      @ricci @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto
                      Yeah, late 90s when I was in high school, a bunch of the local BBSes were run by high school students.

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                      @silvermoon82 @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto man I miss the local BBS scene

                      We had one that was a chartroom that would occasionally break out in a gunfight (in like a programmed way). What a stupid and awesome idea

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                      • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                        @silvermoon82

                        Grass grows, sun shines, birds fly, and nerdy kids operate fun network servers.

                        @ricci @StaticR @gabrielesvelto

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                        @argv_minus_one @silvermoon82 @StaticR @gabrielesvelto you've convinced me, the kid will get some sort of homegrown social media server this weekend

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                        • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                          @oberstenzian

                          And what would you sacrifice it for? The convenience of not having to set up parental controls on the devices you give your children? That hardly justifies the burden you'd impose on everyone else.

                          Are you perhaps worried that your kids will find some other adult who will give them another, unlocked device and social media account to use? Because even with age verification they can still do that!

                          @gabrielesvelto

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                          @argv_minus_one @gabrielesvelto @oberstenzian
                          When I was a teenager, I learned to make decisions about my own behavior. Yes, I did things that my parents disapproved of. We kept talking, and got through it with growth for us all.

                          With my own son, my wife taught me that the important part was to maintain communication. That means listening as well as speaking. Forbidding behavior shuts down that communication.

                          Talk of what you want, not what you don’t want.

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                          • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                            @argv_minus_one @silvermoon82 @StaticR @gabrielesvelto you've convinced me, the kid will get some sort of homegrown social media server this weekend

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                            @ricci @argv_minus_one @silvermoon82 @StaticR @gabrielesvelto Remember to install Luanti on it too!

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                            • tymwol@hachyderm.ioT tymwol@hachyderm.io

                              @gabrielesvelto mentally some of the billionaires seem to be teenagers, so it could have same effect

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                              @tymwol
                              that "some" is doing some heavy lifting

                              @gabrielesvelto

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                              • txtechnician@mastodon.socialT txtechnician@mastodon.social

                                @gbargoud @Space_Burger_Steve @gabrielesvelto

                                Been done already, it's called email bro.

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                                @txtechnician

                                There must another example. It's on the tip of my tongue.

                                @gbargoud @Space_Burger_Steve @gabrielesvelto

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                                  @gabrielesvelto you say this on Mastodon? Where Jeff Atwood is a major donor?

                                  I think all of social media is full of shit.

                                  Best to move away from all of them, for good.

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                                    @gabrielesvelto we are the means of production

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                                    • gdinwiddie@mastodon.socialG gdinwiddie@mastodon.social

                                      @argv_minus_one @gabrielesvelto @oberstenzian
                                      When I was a teenager, I learned to make decisions about my own behavior. Yes, I did things that my parents disapproved of. We kept talking, and got through it with growth for us all.

                                      With my own son, my wife taught me that the important part was to maintain communication. That means listening as well as speaking. Forbidding behavior shuts down that communication.

                                      Talk of what you want, not what you don’t want.

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                                      @gdinwiddie

                                      This! Kids aren't stupid. They can be reasoned with. In fact they *must* be reasoned with; they don't learn anything from unexplained commandments.

                                      And does anyone else remember their own childhood? Sometimes I was rash and arrogant, sure, but I wasn't dumb, and neither were my fellow kids. We figured out for ourselves how to stay safe online.

                                      Now I'm supposed to believe that kids these days aren't born with brains? Baloney. Of course they are.

                                      @gabrielesvelto @oberstenzian

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                                      • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                                        @gdinwiddie

                                        This! Kids aren't stupid. They can be reasoned with. In fact they *must* be reasoned with; they don't learn anything from unexplained commandments.

                                        And does anyone else remember their own childhood? Sometimes I was rash and arrogant, sure, but I wasn't dumb, and neither were my fellow kids. We figured out for ourselves how to stay safe online.

                                        Now I'm supposed to believe that kids these days aren't born with brains? Baloney. Of course they are.

                                        @gabrielesvelto @oberstenzian

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                                        @gdinwiddie

                                        I've actually *lost* intelligence since I was that age. I know more, I have more skill, but I have less brain power with which to use that knowledge and skill.

                                        And that is a tragedy.

                                        But that's why I'm not worried about the kids. They're sharp. What they don't know, they'll figure out quick. And they're resilient, in both mind and body. They'll be fine.

                                        It's the *adults* that I'm worried about. They're the ones who're all losing their damn minds.

                                        @gabrielesvelto @oberstenzian

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                                          @gabrielesvelto Banning Billionaires from owning Billions would be the more important alternative, IMHO...

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