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  • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

    @oberstenzian

    Let's not. Kids are people, not property to be muted at a whim. If they have something to say, the government has no business stopping them from saying it in the place where the general public will hear them, and in 2026 that place is social media.

    Frankly I'm shocked at how quickly freedom of speech flies out the window. When I was in school, I was taught that freedom of speech is sacred and our ancestors died for it! Am I the only one who took it to heart?

    @gabrielesvelto

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    @oberstenzian

    And what would you sacrifice it for? The convenience of not having to set up parental controls on the devices you give your children? That hardly justifies the burden you'd impose on everyone else.

    Are you perhaps worried that your kids will find some other adult who will give them another, unlocked device and social media account to use? Because even with age verification they can still do that!

    @gabrielesvelto

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    • staticr@guild.pmdcollab.orgS staticr@guild.pmdcollab.org

      @gabrielesvelto Social Media exclusively owned by teenagers.

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      @StaticR

      There are probably some teenager-run Fedi sites. So that's already a thing!

      @gabrielesvelto

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      • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

        @Space_Burger_Steve @txtechnician @gabrielesvelto

        What a weird concept, social media owned by a non profit. I don't think it could scale.

        What if instead of one social media site, someone were to make a protocol where a bunch of smaller ones that are a reasonable size to be run by a nonprofit or co op can talk to each other as if they were one big network?

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        @gbargoud @Space_Burger_Steve @txtechnician @gabrielesvelto

        You could almost call it a 'federation' 😉, but without the 'starfleet command' bit.

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          @gabrielesvelto Banninq billionaires from owning anything 👍

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            @gabrielesvelto ban billionaires from existing

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            • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

              @StaticR

              There are probably some teenager-run Fedi sites. So that's already a thing!

              @gabrielesvelto

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              @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto maybe I should set up one for my teen!

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              • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto maybe I should set up one for my teen!

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                @ricci

                I take it your teen isn't interested in doing it themselves?

                I know I'd have been all over it when I was that age. I'd have been all, “I could run my own social media site? HOLY S**T WHERE DO I SIGN?!?”

                Sadly I was on dialup…

                @StaticR @gabrielesvelto

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                • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                  @ricci

                  I take it your teen isn't interested in doing it themselves?

                  I know I'd have been all over it when I was that age. I'd have been all, “I could run my own social media site? HOLY S**T WHERE DO I SIGN?!?”

                  Sadly I was on dialup…

                  @StaticR @gabrielesvelto

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                  @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto I had a buddy who ran a BBS out of his house in high school...

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                  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                    @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto I had a buddy who ran a BBS out of his house in high school...

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                    @ricci @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto
                    Yeah, late 90s when I was in high school, a bunch of the local BBSes were run by high school students.

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                    • silvermoon82@wandering.shopS silvermoon82@wandering.shop

                      @ricci @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto
                      Yeah, late 90s when I was in high school, a bunch of the local BBSes were run by high school students.

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                      @silvermoon82

                      And now we have all manner of whimsical Fedi sites, at least some of which are almost certainly run by teens.

                      Nature is healing!

                      @ricci @StaticR @gabrielesvelto

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                      • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                        @silvermoon82

                        And now we have all manner of whimsical Fedi sites, at least some of which are almost certainly run by teens.

                        Nature is healing!

                        @ricci @StaticR @gabrielesvelto

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                        @silvermoon82

                        Grass grows, sun shines, birds fly, and nerdy kids operate fun network servers.

                        @ricci @StaticR @gabrielesvelto

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                        • silvermoon82@wandering.shopS silvermoon82@wandering.shop

                          @ricci @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto
                          Yeah, late 90s when I was in high school, a bunch of the local BBSes were run by high school students.

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                          @silvermoon82 @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto man I miss the local BBS scene

                          We had one that was a chartroom that would occasionally break out in a gunfight (in like a programmed way). What a stupid and awesome idea

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                          • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                            @silvermoon82

                            Grass grows, sun shines, birds fly, and nerdy kids operate fun network servers.

                            @ricci @StaticR @gabrielesvelto

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                            @argv_minus_one @silvermoon82 @StaticR @gabrielesvelto you've convinced me, the kid will get some sort of homegrown social media server this weekend

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                            • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                              @oberstenzian

                              And what would you sacrifice it for? The convenience of not having to set up parental controls on the devices you give your children? That hardly justifies the burden you'd impose on everyone else.

                              Are you perhaps worried that your kids will find some other adult who will give them another, unlocked device and social media account to use? Because even with age verification they can still do that!

                              @gabrielesvelto

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                              @argv_minus_one @gabrielesvelto @oberstenzian
                              When I was a teenager, I learned to make decisions about my own behavior. Yes, I did things that my parents disapproved of. We kept talking, and got through it with growth for us all.

                              With my own son, my wife taught me that the important part was to maintain communication. That means listening as well as speaking. Forbidding behavior shuts down that communication.

                              Talk of what you want, not what you don’t want.

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                              • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                @argv_minus_one @silvermoon82 @StaticR @gabrielesvelto you've convinced me, the kid will get some sort of homegrown social media server this weekend

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                                @ricci @argv_minus_one @silvermoon82 @StaticR @gabrielesvelto Remember to install Luanti on it too!

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                                • tymwol@hachyderm.ioT tymwol@hachyderm.io

                                  @gabrielesvelto mentally some of the billionaires seem to be teenagers, so it could have same effect

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                                  @tymwol
                                  that "some" is doing some heavy lifting

                                  @gabrielesvelto

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                                  • txtechnician@mastodon.socialT txtechnician@mastodon.social

                                    @gbargoud @Space_Burger_Steve @gabrielesvelto

                                    Been done already, it's called email bro.

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                                    @txtechnician

                                    There must another example. It's on the tip of my tongue.

                                    @gbargoud @Space_Burger_Steve @gabrielesvelto

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                                    • gabrielesvelto@mas.toG gabrielesvelto@mas.to
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                                      @gabrielesvelto you say this on Mastodon? Where Jeff Atwood is a major donor?

                                      I think all of social media is full of shit.

                                      Best to move away from all of them, for good.

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                                        @gabrielesvelto we are the means of production

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                                        • gdinwiddie@mastodon.socialG gdinwiddie@mastodon.social

                                          @argv_minus_one @gabrielesvelto @oberstenzian
                                          When I was a teenager, I learned to make decisions about my own behavior. Yes, I did things that my parents disapproved of. We kept talking, and got through it with growth for us all.

                                          With my own son, my wife taught me that the important part was to maintain communication. That means listening as well as speaking. Forbidding behavior shuts down that communication.

                                          Talk of what you want, not what you don’t want.

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                                          @gdinwiddie

                                          This! Kids aren't stupid. They can be reasoned with. In fact they *must* be reasoned with; they don't learn anything from unexplained commandments.

                                          And does anyone else remember their own childhood? Sometimes I was rash and arrogant, sure, but I wasn't dumb, and neither were my fellow kids. We figured out for ourselves how to stay safe online.

                                          Now I'm supposed to believe that kids these days aren't born with brains? Baloney. Of course they are.

                                          @gabrielesvelto @oberstenzian

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