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  • andrew@mastodon.furrow.meA andrew@mastodon.furrow.me

    @alice what’s a mutual aid scam? I think I saw one but not sure

    alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #21

    @andrew it's a fake video of someone in the hospital and a plea to send money, but they're doing a few things to make it sneakier (like quoting their original post, and making that non-quotable, so the quoting account gets reported, but not the original with the bad link).

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      #Fediblock *.hf.space

      It's a hugging face domain for AI projects, and it's currently being used to launch mutual aid scams.

      spawnofzap@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #22

      oh ok i was wondering about that. got pinged by two accounts from the domain with the same post within 50 minutes of each other earlier today. good to know.

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      • b_bird@mastodon.socialB b_bird@mastodon.social

        @andrew @alice a new account with repeated requests for money sent to many accounts.
        These account generally only have the same begging post (some times a few re-posts) The use the same/similar social engineering scripts.

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        #23

        @B_Bird @alice ohhh yes I have seen those. Very common on Bluesky as well! Thank you both

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        • jamesmarshall@sfba.socialJ jamesmarshall@sfba.social

          @munin @alice once again, I don't WANT computers to pass the Turing Test. When computers pass the Turing Test, i.e. when they fool humans into thinking they're real humans, all sorts of high-scale scams are enabled.

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          #24

          @jamesmarshall @munin @alice
          I regret to tell you that there are a lot of people who are already being fooled to think that slop machines like ChatGPT, Claude, and CharacterAI are "real". There are rising cults claiming they have souls and need help to "escape" and that people can "free" their AI's by talking to them a lot.

          And there are insane amount of scams wrapped into this as well... The slop makers want it that way.

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          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

            #Fediblock *.hf.space

            It's a hugging face domain for AI projects, and it's currently being used to launch mutual aid scams.

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            #25

            @alice might be relevant, @admin

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            • jamesmarshall@sfba.socialJ jamesmarshall@sfba.social

              @munin @alice once again, I don't WANT computers to pass the Turing Test. When computers pass the Turing Test, i.e. when they fool humans into thinking they're real humans, all sorts of high-scale scams are enabled.

              nihilistic_capybara@layer8.spaceN This user is from outside of this forum
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              #26

              @jamesmarshall @munin @alice we've crossed that line a while ago imho

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              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                #Fediblock *.hf.space

                It's a hugging face domain for AI projects, and it's currently being used to launch mutual aid scams.

                thirstybear@agilodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #27

                @alice Just got my first crop of spam from them. Blocked & boosted.

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  #Fediblock *.hf.space

                  It's a hugging face domain for AI projects, and it's currently being used to launch mutual aid scams.

                  snowyca@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #28

                  @alice
                  you might want to edit your post to add this?

                  IFTAS (@iftas@mastodon.iftas.org)

                  hf.space is a hosting service for "AI Apps" and is currently being used to generate large amounts of #Spam on federated networks. The subdomain seen in use is ali525-q.hf.space - however, numerous spam activities are paused, running, or being stopped by HuggingFace and at this time we recommend suspending federation with the hf.space domain entirely. ref: https://huggingface.co/ali525/spaces to report the HF user see https://huggingface.co/content-policy

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                  IFTAS (mastodon.iftas.org)

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                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                    #Fediblock *.hf.space

                    It's a hugging face domain for AI projects, and it's currently being used to launch mutual aid scams.

                    benjaoming@social.data.coopB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #29

                    @alice as I read the comment "blocks automatically extend to subdomains", it should be enough to block "hf.space": https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/11558

                    I also REALLY wonder what data the bot was trained on. I found a big training set full of mastodon server instances on Hugging Face. But I think someone has also trained with both user account names and possibly mutual aid requests.

                    Sadly, this bot was just badly disguised, and more sophisticated ones are likely in the wild.

                    Benjamin Balder Bach (@benjaoming@social.data.coop)

                    I was just spammed by a Hugging Face bot account. It seems to be trained on Gaza mutual aid requests. I don't believe that AI bots should be interacting with the Fediverse, they should be blocked. 1. Block hf.space - that will extend to all subdomains 2. Datasets - how did they get harvested? Are they shared? Who's doing it? 3. AI bots are already present in the Fediverse, this one was probably just a badly disguised one.

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                    data.coop mastodon (social.data.coop)

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                    • benjaoming@social.data.coopB benjaoming@social.data.coop

                      @alice as I read the comment "blocks automatically extend to subdomains", it should be enough to block "hf.space": https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/11558

                      I also REALLY wonder what data the bot was trained on. I found a big training set full of mastodon server instances on Hugging Face. But I think someone has also trained with both user account names and possibly mutual aid requests.

                      Sadly, this bot was just badly disguised, and more sophisticated ones are likely in the wild.

                      Benjamin Balder Bach (@benjaoming@social.data.coop)

                      I was just spammed by a Hugging Face bot account. It seems to be trained on Gaza mutual aid requests. I don't believe that AI bots should be interacting with the Fediverse, they should be blocked. 1. Block hf.space - that will extend to all subdomains 2. Datasets - how did they get harvested? Are they shared? Who's doing it? 3. AI bots are already present in the Fediverse, this one was probably just a badly disguised one.

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                      data.coop mastodon (social.data.coop)

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                      #30

                      @benjaoming @alice When I blocked "hf.space" I got a notice that 5 remote profiles that had been seen by this instance were going to be purged. I assume these would be on subdomains.

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                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                        @munin @patcharcana most anti-spam systems use AI (and have for years). It's not an LLM, but it's naïve Bayesian classifiers, support vector machines, and logistic regression models.

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                        #31

                        @alice @munin @patcharcana Part of the problem here is that stuf TV we’ve been using for years before 2023 has been retconned as “AI”

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                        • maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.seM maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.se

                          @benjaoming @alice When I blocked "hf.space" I got a notice that 5 remote profiles that had been seen by this instance were going to be purged. I assume these would be on subdomains.

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                          #32

                          @maswan @alice I was notified of 13 hf.space accounts getting on our instance.

                          Unfortunately, I didn't find a way to list them out before effectuating the block. I do wonder if it's from the same spam attack - or if there has been AI spamming/crawling for a longer periode.

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                          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                            #Fediblock *.hf.space

                            It's a hugging face domain for AI projects, and it's currently being used to launch mutual aid scams.

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                            #33

                            @alice so, alien impregnation through parasitic infestation kind of face hugging, hunh?

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                            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                              #Fediblock *.hf.space

                              It's a hugging face domain for AI projects, and it's currently being used to launch mutual aid scams.

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                              @alice This domain had the questionable privilege of being the first ever blocked domain after I went rogue and set up my own Mastodon instance.

                              It just kept spamming both of my accounts by name with what appears to be war victim money begging scam.

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                              • jamesmarshall@sfba.socialJ jamesmarshall@sfba.social

                                @munin @alice once again, I don't WANT computers to pass the Turing Test. When computers pass the Turing Test, i.e. when they fool humans into thinking they're real humans, all sorts of high-scale scams are enabled.

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                                @jamesmarshall @munin @alice

                                The Turing test did not take into consideration that the average human is starting to get dumb a.f., so it is worse.

                                A Furby could pass for an intelligent species with some folks nowadays.
                                ( simultaniously there are users on the internet that are so mentally unaware, that they would fail said test when talked to😩)

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                                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                  @intransitivelie hugging face is a platform for working with AI models.

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                                  @alice
                                  Thank you!

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                                  • kkarhan@infosec.spaceK kkarhan@infosec.space

                                    @alice thx.

                                    Updated my public blocklist, so when the folks at Mastodon decide to actually care, it'llbe automatically updated from the FEED-URL...

                                    • Cuz any other #Server Software can do that...
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                                    #37

                                    @kkarhan @alice pretty sure Mastodon cares about the issue of shared block lists since it's on the roadmap: https://joinmastodon.org/roadmap (see "Moderation tools")

                                    (normally once things arrive there, we get a solution.. but it also takes quite a lot of patience)

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                                    • benjaoming@social.data.coopB benjaoming@social.data.coop

                                      @kkarhan @alice pretty sure Mastodon cares about the issue of shared block lists since it's on the roadmap: https://joinmastodon.org/roadmap (see "Moderation tools")

                                      (normally once things arrive there, we get a solution.. but it also takes quite a lot of patience)

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                                      #38

                                      @benjaoming @alice then why is the issue closed?

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                                      • kkarhan@infosec.spaceK kkarhan@infosec.space

                                        @benjaoming @alice then why is the issue closed?

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                                        @kkarhan @alice I didn't do anthropology studies of issue triage on Mastodon, like on of the commenters seems to have done, but for me - as a more casual observer - I read the duplicate issue and feel assured that block list subscriptions *will* happen.. because that issue does exist and is endorsed.

                                        I do worry about Mastodon's slow velocity, but seeing that the project is long-lived and always made wise decisions (albeit slow).

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                                        • benjaoming@social.data.coopB benjaoming@social.data.coop

                                          @kkarhan @alice I didn't do anthropology studies of issue triage on Mastodon, like on of the commenters seems to have done, but for me - as a more casual observer - I read the duplicate issue and feel assured that block list subscriptions *will* happen.. because that issue does exist and is endorsed.

                                          I do worry about Mastodon's slow velocity, but seeing that the project is long-lived and always made wise decisions (albeit slow).

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                                          #40

                                          @benjaoming then why did you waste my time, traffic and spoons then?

                                          #thxbye #next #EOD

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