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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

    Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster

    Just a moment...

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    * you're all dumb haters
    * AI is a revolution just in the past few months
    * yes there were regressions but,
    * the new test suite is awesome you haters
    * openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,

    at least it reads like he wrote it by hand

    i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here

    li@tech.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
    li@tech.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
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    #24

    @davidgerard

    > Also, nobody actually knows if human intelligence is just finer grained stochastic prediction as well.

    lmfao yes we do, people are not LLMs

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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      @dysfun did any of them acknowledge that??

      dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #25

      @davidgerard i heard (though haven't seen) that fedora wouldn't take the update and they are all in.

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      • sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blogS sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blog

        @davidgerard So he's an arrogant asshole too. Great.

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        #26

        @sharpcheddargoblin he's got a lot to be arrogant about! unfortunately,

        sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blogS david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD 2 Replies Last reply
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        • peter_sc@chaos.socialP peter_sc@chaos.social

          @davidgerard "People keep telling me gambling is bad, but what they don't know is this: I have a *system*. These new machines are so much more sophisticated, your ideas about how they work are totally outdated. What do you mean 'am I on cocaine?' Of course I am! It's part of the system, dummy!"

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          #27

          @peter_sc @davidgerard Thanks, this was very funny. ❤️

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          • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

            @davidgerard

            > Also, nobody actually knows if human intelligence is just finer grained stochastic prediction as well.

            lmfao yes we do, people are not LLMs

            hsza@social.tudbut.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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            #28

            @Li @davidgerard has that “scientists are undecided on climate change” energy

            i would rather not read a blost that is entirely product of slopsychosis tbh

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            • dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD dysfun@social.treehouse.systems

              @davidgerard i heard (though haven't seen) that fedora wouldn't take the update and they are all in.

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              #29

              @dysfun yeah i went looking and can't find evidence for that one either sadly

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                @dysfun yeah i went looking and can't find evidence for that one either sadly

                dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #30

                @davidgerard you have to find a source for your credibility, i am shitposting either way

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                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                  Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster

                  Just a moment...

                  favicon

                  (medium.com)

                  * you're all dumb haters
                  * AI is a revolution just in the past few months
                  * yes there were regressions but,
                  * the new test suite is awesome you haters
                  * openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,

                  at least it reads like he wrote it by hand

                  i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here

                  theonedoc@tech.lgbtT This user is from outside of this forum
                  theonedoc@tech.lgbtT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #31

                  @davidgerard and that's how you dig your hole with the help of an fucking excavator.

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                  • quincy@chaos.socialQ quincy@chaos.social

                    @davidgerard

                    To be fair, what he writes, for the most part, doesn't even sound unreasonable to me, if I try to ignore the parts that are AI-pilled hyperbole.

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                    #32

                    @quincy yeah, it looks fine if you remove the context ...

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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster

                      Just a moment...

                      favicon

                      (medium.com)

                      * you're all dumb haters
                      * AI is a revolution just in the past few months
                      * yes there were regressions but,
                      * the new test suite is awesome you haters
                      * openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,

                      at least it reads like he wrote it by hand

                      i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here

                      swaldman@mendeddrum.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
                      swaldman@mendeddrum.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
                      swaldman@mendeddrum.org
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                      #33

                      @davidgerard Seems to me that a root issue may be "I don't want to be the maintainer of this package any more - I'd rather be sailing - but I am not taking any (apparent) action to get others to take it over."

                      I've no problem with a retired maintainer of a bedrock package wanting to avoid spending their life on it. The responsible approach is to look for somebody (or a group of somebodies) to take it over, rather than to try to automate the responsibilities.

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                      • netzblockierer@tech.lgbtN netzblockierer@tech.lgbt

                        @davidgerard I guess folks will have to fork off pre - AI Slop rsync (if that didn't happen already!) just like pre-Enshittification Vim got forked off as EVi.

                        #rsync #openrsync #AIslop #AI #slop #Enshittification #vim #evi #SlopCode

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                        #34

                        @Netzblockierer @davidgerard What happened with Vim?

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                        • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                          @davidgerard

                          > Also, nobody actually knows if human intelligence is just finer grained stochastic prediction as well.

                          lmfao yes we do, people are not LLMs

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                          #35

                          @Li @davidgerard ah yeah the mark of someone who got one-shotted

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                          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                            Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster

                            Just a moment...

                            favicon

                            (medium.com)

                            * you're all dumb haters
                            * AI is a revolution just in the past few months
                            * yes there were regressions but,
                            * the new test suite is awesome you haters
                            * openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,

                            at least it reads like he wrote it by hand

                            i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here

                            shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lolS This user is from outside of this forum
                            shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lolS This user is from outside of this forum
                            shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lol
                            wrote last edited by
                            #36

                            @davidgerard

                            > I’m a software engineer with 40 years experience (yeah, I’m OLD!), so ... I thought it would be a good idea to do the core structure for the new test suite in public on master

                            Ah fuck, he's gone senile.

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                            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                              @sharpcheddargoblin he's got a lot to be arrogant about! unfortunately,

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                              #37

                              @davidgerard Well, he has some great accomplishments, sure. Just another case of shitting all over your past successes. Sad to see.

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                              • chiffchaff@tech.lgbtC chiffchaff@tech.lgbt

                                @davidgerard I think the intro actually says a lot. He's retired and toesn't really want to do it any more, but doesn't want to let go. I guess he sees AI as a way that he can retain ownership without putting in the extra work that he no longer wants or is incapable of doing.

                                I think that's fair enough. I'm sure everyone reaches that point in their life and struggles with those things, especially someone who has been so lauded.

                                In terms of rsync, I think it reinforces the idea of a fork for someone more hungry and able to work on this.

                                Tbh, I do feel sorry for him for all the dogpiling, despite my selfish frustration at the inconvenience this is causing me personally.

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                                @chiffchaff @davidgerard no one made him do it. He did it to himself and now refuses to take responsibility as clearly we are all morons and not Australia's only programmer...

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                                • hugoestr@functional.cafeH hugoestr@functional.cafe

                                  @Netzblockierer @davidgerard What happened with Vim?

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                                  #39

                                  @hugoestr @Netzblockierer long time maintainer died, his most likely backup had died a few years before, so the new guy was overwhelmed and went straight to the slop machine. Two non-vibe forks, evi and vim-classic.

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                                  • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                                    @Li @davidgerard has that “scientists are undecided on climate change” energy

                                    i would rather not read a blost that is entirely product of slopsychosis tbh

                                    davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #40

                                    @hsza @Li at least it does read like he wrote it by hand

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                                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                      Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster

                                      Just a moment...

                                      favicon

                                      (medium.com)

                                      * you're all dumb haters
                                      * AI is a revolution just in the past few months
                                      * yes there were regressions but,
                                      * the new test suite is awesome you haters
                                      * openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,

                                      at least it reads like he wrote it by hand

                                      i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here

                                      buniaxd@tech.lgbtB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      buniaxd@tech.lgbt
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #41

                                      @davidgerard i thought he didn't had enough people to help him fix open CVEs, so he used claude for that(?). tho, still its a bad decision to do.

                                      its kind of sad to see a person ruin their entire reputation as the professional foss developer (as much as i know) because they decided "fuck it", and use llm for their code.

                                      to clarify, im not entirely against llm-assisted code IF its a tiny-winy bit, but still, knowing that some part of the software is written using llm-assistance, feels wrong, and overall acts as the anti-ad for the software itself.

                                      i will avoid rsync, because... im kind of didn't used it at all before, and the presence of the llm-assisted code is a sign that i probably shouldn't trust the software.

                                      p.s. i dont use llms for coding in my own projects.

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                                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                        @hugoestr @Netzblockierer long time maintainer died, his most likely backup had died a few years before, so the new guy was overwhelmed and went straight to the slop machine. Two non-vibe forks, evi and vim-classic.

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                                        #42

                                        @Netzblockierer @davidgerard thanks so much. Time to explore those

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                                        • sharkfie@infosec.exchangeS sharkfie@infosec.exchange

                                          @davidgerard

                                          I’m here to tell you that you are out of date. The world of software engineering has changed dramatically in the last few months.

                                          They are better (I have to use them for work, not primarily a software dev though) but they do still do fundamentally broken decisions that "compile, run, end up with subtle bugs or silent failures". It was impressive until I began having to fix a lot of those.

                                          I wonder if he hasn't gotten to that part.

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                                          #43

                                          @sharkfie @davidgerard oh we're past that point https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@JeremiahFieldhaven/116654345332213390

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