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  • shadowjonathan@tech.lgbtS shadowjonathan@tech.lgbt

    @davidgerard also what the fuck are these replies glazing him

    can you moderate replies as an author?

    hsza@social.tudbut.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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    #20

    @ShadowJonathan @davidgerard chances are you can, but also picture the average individual with a medium.com account

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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster

      Just a moment...

      favicon

      (medium.com)

      * you're all dumb haters
      * AI is a revolution just in the past few months
      * yes there were regressions but,
      * the new test suite is awesome you haters
      * openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,

      at least it reads like he wrote it by hand

      i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here

      passocacornio@tech.lgbtP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #21

      @davidgerard no, like i get it... i don't know their level of understanding about machine learning, so i will not conflate their feeling overwhelmed by the surge in llm-driven issues reporting with lack of knowledge, also I don't know if any maintainer of rsync is trustworthy enough (in their experience) to pass the project to.
      but i do think we need to normalize saying a software is complete more often.
      what i mean by complete? that it will not get more features and will only get security updates and at a slowed down pace.
      the "move fast and break things" did much more damage to to software engineering than we are comfortable admitting. i don't agree with their main points, but I empathize with the thought processes they are putting "to paper", even the subconscious ones.
      anyway, let's migrate to openrsync

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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster

        Just a moment...

        favicon

        (medium.com)

        * you're all dumb haters
        * AI is a revolution just in the past few months
        * yes there were regressions but,
        * the new test suite is awesome you haters
        * openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,

        at least it reads like he wrote it by hand

        i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here

        mackensen@higheredweb.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #22

        @davidgerard it's clear that he doesn't consider any criticisms of his choice legitimate, which rather confirms what his critics are saying.

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        • dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD dysfun@social.treehouse.systems

          @davidgerard i dunno man, it seems a little harder to justify how great AI is when you've just put out what was widely acknowledged even by slop coddists as one of the most disastrous software releases of all time with its help.

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          #23

          @dysfun did any of them acknowledge that??

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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster

            Just a moment...

            favicon

            (medium.com)

            * you're all dumb haters
            * AI is a revolution just in the past few months
            * yes there were regressions but,
            * the new test suite is awesome you haters
            * openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,

            at least it reads like he wrote it by hand

            i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here

            li@tech.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
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            li@tech.lgbt
            wrote last edited by
            #24

            @davidgerard

            > Also, nobody actually knows if human intelligence is just finer grained stochastic prediction as well.

            lmfao yes we do, people are not LLMs

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            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

              @dysfun did any of them acknowledge that??

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              #25

              @davidgerard i heard (though haven't seen) that fedora wouldn't take the update and they are all in.

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              • sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blogS sharpcheddargoblin@reclusive.blog

                @davidgerard So he's an arrogant asshole too. Great.

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                #26

                @sharpcheddargoblin he's got a lot to be arrogant about! unfortunately,

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                • peter_sc@chaos.socialP peter_sc@chaos.social

                  @davidgerard "People keep telling me gambling is bad, but what they don't know is this: I have a *system*. These new machines are so much more sophisticated, your ideas about how they work are totally outdated. What do you mean 'am I on cocaine?' Of course I am! It's part of the system, dummy!"

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                  #27

                  @peter_sc @davidgerard Thanks, this was very funny. ❤️

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                  • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                    @davidgerard

                    > Also, nobody actually knows if human intelligence is just finer grained stochastic prediction as well.

                    lmfao yes we do, people are not LLMs

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                    #28

                    @Li @davidgerard has that “scientists are undecided on climate change” energy

                    i would rather not read a blost that is entirely product of slopsychosis tbh

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                    • dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD dysfun@social.treehouse.systems

                      @davidgerard i heard (though haven't seen) that fedora wouldn't take the update and they are all in.

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                      #29

                      @dysfun yeah i went looking and can't find evidence for that one either sadly

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        @dysfun yeah i went looking and can't find evidence for that one either sadly

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                        #30

                        @davidgerard you have to find a source for your credibility, i am shitposting either way

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                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                          Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster

                          Just a moment...

                          favicon

                          (medium.com)

                          * you're all dumb haters
                          * AI is a revolution just in the past few months
                          * yes there were regressions but,
                          * the new test suite is awesome you haters
                          * openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,

                          at least it reads like he wrote it by hand

                          i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here

                          theonedoc@tech.lgbtT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #31

                          @davidgerard and that's how you dig your hole with the help of an fucking excavator.

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                          • quincy@chaos.socialQ quincy@chaos.social

                            @davidgerard

                            To be fair, what he writes, for the most part, doesn't even sound unreasonable to me, if I try to ignore the parts that are AI-pilled hyperbole.

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                            #32

                            @quincy yeah, it looks fine if you remove the context ...

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                            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                              Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster

                              Just a moment...

                              favicon

                              (medium.com)

                              * you're all dumb haters
                              * AI is a revolution just in the past few months
                              * yes there were regressions but,
                              * the new test suite is awesome you haters
                              * openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,

                              at least it reads like he wrote it by hand

                              i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here

                              swaldman@mendeddrum.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              swaldman@mendeddrum.org
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                              #33

                              @davidgerard Seems to me that a root issue may be "I don't want to be the maintainer of this package any more - I'd rather be sailing - but I am not taking any (apparent) action to get others to take it over."

                              I've no problem with a retired maintainer of a bedrock package wanting to avoid spending their life on it. The responsible approach is to look for somebody (or a group of somebodies) to take it over, rather than to try to automate the responsibilities.

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                              • netzblockierer@tech.lgbtN netzblockierer@tech.lgbt

                                @davidgerard I guess folks will have to fork off pre - AI Slop rsync (if that didn't happen already!) just like pre-Enshittification Vim got forked off as EVi.

                                #rsync #openrsync #AIslop #AI #slop #Enshittification #vim #evi #SlopCode

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                                #34

                                @Netzblockierer @davidgerard What happened with Vim?

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                                • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                                  @davidgerard

                                  > Also, nobody actually knows if human intelligence is just finer grained stochastic prediction as well.

                                  lmfao yes we do, people are not LLMs

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                                  #35

                                  @Li @davidgerard ah yeah the mark of someone who got one-shotted

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                                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                    Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster

                                    Just a moment...

                                    favicon

                                    (medium.com)

                                    * you're all dumb haters
                                    * AI is a revolution just in the past few months
                                    * yes there were regressions but,
                                    * the new test suite is awesome you haters
                                    * openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,

                                    at least it reads like he wrote it by hand

                                    i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here

                                    shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lolS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lol
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #36

                                    @davidgerard

                                    > I’m a software engineer with 40 years experience (yeah, I’m OLD!), so ... I thought it would be a good idea to do the core structure for the new test suite in public on master

                                    Ah fuck, he's gone senile.

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                                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                      @sharpcheddargoblin he's got a lot to be arrogant about! unfortunately,

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                                      #37

                                      @davidgerard Well, he has some great accomplishments, sure. Just another case of shitting all over your past successes. Sad to see.

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                                      • chiffchaff@tech.lgbtC chiffchaff@tech.lgbt

                                        @davidgerard I think the intro actually says a lot. He's retired and toesn't really want to do it any more, but doesn't want to let go. I guess he sees AI as a way that he can retain ownership without putting in the extra work that he no longer wants or is incapable of doing.

                                        I think that's fair enough. I'm sure everyone reaches that point in their life and struggles with those things, especially someone who has been so lauded.

                                        In terms of rsync, I think it reinforces the idea of a fork for someone more hungry and able to work on this.

                                        Tbh, I do feel sorry for him for all the dogpiling, despite my selfish frustration at the inconvenience this is causing me personally.

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                                        #38

                                        @chiffchaff @davidgerard no one made him do it. He did it to himself and now refuses to take responsibility as clearly we are all morons and not Australia's only programmer...

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                                        • hugoestr@functional.cafeH hugoestr@functional.cafe

                                          @Netzblockierer @davidgerard What happened with Vim?

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                                          #39

                                          @hugoestr @Netzblockierer long time maintainer died, his most likely backup had died a few years before, so the new guy was overwhelmed and went straight to the slop machine. Two non-vibe forks, evi and vim-classic.

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