Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster
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@davidgerard can we normalize giving a project to someone else if you don't want to maintain it
The problem is finding people who are both willing and able to do it (and not, as with liblzma2, just there for the supply-chain attacks).
This is especially true for codebases written in C with a bunch of idiosyncratic things. I had a quick skim of some of the rsync source and it has a few more comments than a lot of contemporary code, but also some cryptic things. My favourite was an ad-hoc inlined memmove with a comment explaining that memmove didn't handle overlapping regions correctly on 'some platforms' (the only difference between memmove and memcpy is that the former is required to be able to handle overlapping regions). I wouldn't want to take over maintaining it, even if I had time to do so.
That said, I think we do need to normalise projects being done. No new features need to be added, the project is complete.
This is much easier when the project is designed around extensibility, so missing features can be added with external plugins, maintained by other people.
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@ShadowJonathan @davidgerard I know someone with a Medium account and yes you can hide replies you don't like
@ShadowJonathan also possibly some sampling bias as people who use AI are prolly more likely to have a Medium account
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@davidgerard also what the fuck are these replies glazing him
can you moderate replies as an author?
@ShadowJonathan @davidgerard chances are you can, but also picture the average individual with a medium.com account
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Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster
* you're all dumb haters
* AI is a revolution just in the past few months
* yes there were regressions but,
* the new test suite is awesome you haters
* openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,at least it reads like he wrote it by hand
i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here
@davidgerard no, like i get it... i don't know their level of understanding about machine learning, so i will not conflate their feeling overwhelmed by the surge in llm-driven issues reporting with lack of knowledge, also I don't know if any maintainer of rsync is trustworthy enough (in their experience) to pass the project to.
but i do think we need to normalize saying a software is complete more often.
what i mean by complete? that it will not get more features and will only get security updates and at a slowed down pace.
the "move fast and break things" did much more damage to to software engineering than we are comfortable admitting. i don't agree with their main points, but I empathize with the thought processes they are putting "to paper", even the subconscious ones.
anyway, let's migrate to openrsync -
Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster
* you're all dumb haters
* AI is a revolution just in the past few months
* yes there were regressions but,
* the new test suite is awesome you haters
* openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,at least it reads like he wrote it by hand
i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here
@davidgerard it's clear that he doesn't consider any criticisms of his choice legitimate, which rather confirms what his critics are saying.
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@davidgerard i dunno man, it seems a little harder to justify how great AI is when you've just put out what was widely acknowledged even by slop coddists as one of the most disastrous software releases of all time with its help.
@dysfun did any of them acknowledge that??
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Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster
* you're all dumb haters
* AI is a revolution just in the past few months
* yes there were regressions but,
* the new test suite is awesome you haters
* openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,at least it reads like he wrote it by hand
i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here
> Also, nobody actually knows if human intelligence is just finer grained stochastic prediction as well.
lmfao yes we do, people are not LLMs
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@dysfun did any of them acknowledge that??
@davidgerard i heard (though haven't seen) that fedora wouldn't take the update and they are all in.
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@davidgerard So he's an arrogant asshole too. Great.
@sharpcheddargoblin he's got a lot to be arrogant about! unfortunately,
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@davidgerard "People keep telling me gambling is bad, but what they don't know is this: I have a *system*. These new machines are so much more sophisticated, your ideas about how they work are totally outdated. What do you mean 'am I on cocaine?' Of course I am! It's part of the system, dummy!"
@peter_sc @davidgerard Thanks, this was very funny.
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> Also, nobody actually knows if human intelligence is just finer grained stochastic prediction as well.
lmfao yes we do, people are not LLMs
@Li @davidgerard has that “scientists are undecided on climate change” energy
i would rather not read a blost that is entirely product of slopsychosis tbh
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@davidgerard i heard (though haven't seen) that fedora wouldn't take the update and they are all in.
@dysfun yeah i went looking and can't find evidence for that one either sadly
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@dysfun yeah i went looking and can't find evidence for that one either sadly
@davidgerard you have to find a source for your credibility, i am shitposting either way
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Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster
* you're all dumb haters
* AI is a revolution just in the past few months
* yes there were regressions but,
* the new test suite is awesome you haters
* openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,at least it reads like he wrote it by hand
i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here
@davidgerard and that's how you dig your hole with the help of an fucking excavator.
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To be fair, what he writes, for the most part, doesn't even sound unreasonable to me, if I try to ignore the parts that are AI-pilled hyperbole.
@quincy yeah, it looks fine if you remove the context ...
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Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster
* you're all dumb haters
* AI is a revolution just in the past few months
* yes there were regressions but,
* the new test suite is awesome you haters
* openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,at least it reads like he wrote it by hand
i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here
@davidgerard Seems to me that a root issue may be "I don't want to be the maintainer of this package any more - I'd rather be sailing - but I am not taking any (apparent) action to get others to take it over."
I've no problem with a retired maintainer of a bedrock package wanting to avoid spending their life on it. The responsible approach is to look for somebody (or a group of somebodies) to take it over, rather than to try to automate the responsibilities.
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@davidgerard I guess folks will have to fork off pre - AI Slop
rsync(if that didn't happen already!) just like pre-EnshittificationVimgot forked off asEVi.#rsync #openrsync #AIslop #AI #slop #Enshittification #vim #evi #SlopCode
@Netzblockierer @davidgerard What happened with Vim?
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> Also, nobody actually knows if human intelligence is just finer grained stochastic prediction as well.
lmfao yes we do, people are not LLMs
@Li @davidgerard ah yeah the mark of someone who got one-shotted
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Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster
* you're all dumb haters
* AI is a revolution just in the past few months
* yes there were regressions but,
* the new test suite is awesome you haters
* openrsync doesn't pass the new test suite! ha, you fools! well that's cos it targets an older version but,at least it reads like he wrote it by hand
i can pick the particular mastodon posts he's reacting to here
> I’m a software engineer with 40 years experience (yeah, I’m OLD!), so ... I thought it would be a good idea to do the core structure for the new test suite in public on master
Ah fuck, he's gone senile.
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@sharpcheddargoblin he's got a lot to be arrogant about! unfortunately,
@davidgerard Well, he has some great accomplishments, sure. Just another case of shitting all over your past successes. Sad to see.
