I can't believe I have to rant about this *IN 2026* but:
-
I can't believe I have to rant about this *IN 2026* but:
"5m" is not a useful timestamp.
"4:26PM" is not a useful timestamp.
"1 day ago" is not a useful timestamp.These things are subjective, and with important data - SUBJECTIVE IS USELESS.
"2026-05-26 13:45:02 UTC" is a timestamp (and the preferred format)
Please, if you design UIs, write "ISO-8601 OR GTFO" in sharpie on the back of your left hand until you get it.
-
R relay@relay.infosec.exchange shared this topic
-
I can't believe I have to rant about this *IN 2026* but:
"5m" is not a useful timestamp.
"4:26PM" is not a useful timestamp.
"1 day ago" is not a useful timestamp.These things are subjective, and with important data - SUBJECTIVE IS USELESS.
"2026-05-26 13:45:02 UTC" is a timestamp (and the preferred format)
Please, if you design UIs, write "ISO-8601 OR GTFO" in sharpie on the back of your left hand until you get it.
@phreakmonkey @mcdutchie Markus Kuhn has had a great page on ISO-8601 for a long time (sic) at https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-time.html
(His page on ISO 216 is also well worth a visit: https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html )
-
@phreakmonkey @mcdutchie Markus Kuhn has had a great page on ISO-8601 for a long time (sic) at https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-time.html
(His page on ISO 216 is also well worth a visit: https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html )
@phreakmonkey @mcdutchie On the related topic of time and software development, in a previous life, i had some fun writing ‘Oh dear! Oh dear! I shall be too late!’
https://gizmonaut.net/soapflakes/EXE-199707.html -
I can't believe I have to rant about this *IN 2026* but:
"5m" is not a useful timestamp.
"4:26PM" is not a useful timestamp.
"1 day ago" is not a useful timestamp.These things are subjective, and with important data - SUBJECTIVE IS USELESS.
"2026-05-26 13:45:02 UTC" is a timestamp (and the preferred format)
Please, if you design UIs, write "ISO-8601 OR GTFO" in sharpie on the back of your left hand until you get it.
Got this abomination on an invoice today, from an electronics hobby shop.
ISO-8601 needs to be signed into law.