I have a friend who learned English as like her fifth language, but since it's professionally vital to her, she's asked me to let her know if she consistently makes errors, and I do, but I also kinda hate doing so.
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I have a friend who learned English as like her fifth language, but since it's professionally vital to her, she's asked me to let her know if she consistently makes errors, and I do, but I also kinda hate doing so. She says "after work would you like to go to Traders Joe?" I sigh and say "it's one trader, possessive" and she says "trader joe's" and I will never hear traders joe again and the world seems a little poorer for that.
I totally hear you on that! I love the poetic way that people speak a language that is relatively new to them
Plus it's frustrating and interrupts the flow of conversation, to be constantly correcting people. And it feels unequal. There are a lot of reasons
My bestie was from another country, and after we known each other for several years he started taking ESL classes. He came back from class and said why didn't you tell me this and that was wrong?!
(He was the only non Spanish speaking person in that class, and ended up learning a lot more Spanish than English, which he found very amusing)
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I have a friend who learned English as like her fifth language, but since it's professionally vital to her, she's asked me to let her know if she consistently makes errors, and I do, but I also kinda hate doing so. She says "after work would you like to go to Traders Joe?" I sigh and say "it's one trader, possessive" and she says "trader joe's" and I will never hear traders joe again and the world seems a little poorer for that.
It might be technically true
...Do they still label some of their import style foods differently? I remember they had Trader Jose, and I don't know what all. Maybe Trader Guilio? -
I totally hear you on that! I love the poetic way that people speak a language that is relatively new to them
Plus it's frustrating and interrupts the flow of conversation, to be constantly correcting people. And it feels unequal. There are a lot of reasons
My bestie was from another country, and after we known each other for several years he started taking ESL classes. He came back from class and said why didn't you tell me this and that was wrong?!
(He was the only non Spanish speaking person in that class, and ended up learning a lot more Spanish than English, which he found very amusing)
@NilaJones Yeah. I don't do so during conversation, I do so later, because it's too rude.
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I have a friend who learned English as like her fifth language, but since it's professionally vital to her, she's asked me to let her know if she consistently makes errors, and I do, but I also kinda hate doing so. She says "after work would you like to go to Traders Joe?" I sigh and say "it's one trader, possessive" and she says "trader joe's" and I will never hear traders joe again and the world seems a little poorer for that.
@smellsofbikes Brings back fond (?) memories of GrammarNazis...but yeah, taking notes and addressing issues later is the way to go...plus...there's going to be the inevitable clash with slang vernacular versus proper English with the Common Use Rule always reigning supreme. -
@smellsofbikes Brings back fond (?) memories of GrammarNazis...but yeah, taking notes and addressing issues later is the way to go...plus...there's going to be the inevitable clash with slang vernacular versus proper English with the Common Use Rule always reigning supreme.
@claralistensprechen3rd I'm a grammar conscript: I've been coerced into this!
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@claralistensprechen3rd I'm a grammar conscript: I've been coerced into this!
@smellsofbikes Lolz! I believe it.
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I have a friend who learned English as like her fifth language, but since it's professionally vital to her, she's asked me to let her know if she consistently makes errors, and I do, but I also kinda hate doing so. She says "after work would you like to go to Traders Joe?" I sigh and say "it's one trader, possessive" and she says "trader joe's" and I will never hear traders joe again and the world seems a little poorer for that.
@smellsofbikes lol, my girlfriend of the time used to not correct me, despite my repeatedly pleading for her to do so, when I lived there. She thought it was cute and wanted me to keep making these mistakes she enjoyed…
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@smellsofbikes lol, my girlfriend of the time used to not correct me, despite my repeatedly pleading for her to do so, when I lived there. She thought it was cute and wanted me to keep making these mistakes she enjoyed…
@metacosm See, yeah, this is pretty much how I feel, but she was clear that she wants to use idiomatic english. She also wanted to speak with a texas accent for a while, but after multiple people criticized her current accent pattern in ways that she felt were racially tinged, she's decided she's proud of her accent so at least that's not going away.
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@metacosm See, yeah, this is pretty much how I feel, but she was clear that she wants to use idiomatic english. She also wanted to speak with a texas accent for a while, but after multiple people criticized her current accent pattern in ways that she felt were racially tinged, she's decided she's proud of her accent so at least that's not going away.
@smellsofbikes I get the allure but, when learning, you definitely want to go the idiomatic way… at least, that was my goal, maybe other people don’t care?
And, yes, accents are so cute!
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@smellsofbikes I get the allure but, when learning, you definitely want to go the idiomatic way… at least, that was my goal, maybe other people don’t care?
And, yes, accents are so cute!@metacosm One of the things I learned about from this was stress-, syllable-, and mora-timed languages, and why people whose first language is syllable-timed speak English in such a different (and to my ear absolutely beautiful) way than people who grew up in the american midwest, where we mostly only have one vowel, "uh".
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