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  3. I found an amazon basics color changing smart light bulb attached to a lamp my neighbor threw in the apartment dumpster.

I found an amazon basics color changing smart light bulb attached to a lamp my neighbor threw in the apartment dumpster.

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  • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

    It's free! And it looks like all the relevant pins are broken out

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    Ok, it's controlling a BP1838 3 channel dimmable LED driver chip: https://datasheet4u.com/datasheets/BPS/BP1638CJ/1495890

    If someone out there is smart and wants to try throwing some code together to see if it will work outside of the amazon ecosystem, let me know and I'll try loading it onto the ESP32

    mle_online@social.afront.orgM ruenahcmohr@infosec.exchangeR maehw@chaos.socialM bytex64@awesome.gardenB 4 Replies Last reply
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    • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

      @scribblesonnapkins guessing that's beyond the scope of what @MLE_online is after here, but it *is* making me wonder what people have done in this vein to try and defeat the secure boot

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      @SnoopJ @MLE_online
      They have on other processors but I don't know about this one.

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      • larrybiggs@infosec.exchangeL larrybiggs@infosec.exchange

        @MLE_online I like to think of it as percussive maintenance lol

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        @larrybiggs You can only call it that when you hammer on it. I just sawed the case open

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        • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

          Ok, it's controlling a BP1838 3 channel dimmable LED driver chip: https://datasheet4u.com/datasheets/BPS/BP1638CJ/1495890

          If someone out there is smart and wants to try throwing some code together to see if it will work outside of the amazon ecosystem, let me know and I'll try loading it onto the ESP32

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          #39

          I have no idea which pins of the esp32 those lines going to the LED driver are associated with, btw. They put a giant blob of very stiff silicone over all of that

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          • scribblesonnapkins@mastodon.socialS scribblesonnapkins@mastodon.social

            @SnoopJ @MLE_online
            They have on other processors but I don't know about this one.

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            @scribblesonnapkins @MLE_online it looks like the kind of fault injection you're thinking of was performed on a cousin chip, I would guess the secure boot is pretty much the same across the family of chips and would be susceptible to the same attack:

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            Raelize provides top-notch embedded device security serrvices like consultancy, testing, research and training.

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            pretty neat, I like that write-up quite well

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            • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

              Ok, it's controlling a BP1838 3 channel dimmable LED driver chip: https://datasheet4u.com/datasheets/BPS/BP1638CJ/1495890

              If someone out there is smart and wants to try throwing some code together to see if it will work outside of the amazon ecosystem, let me know and I'll try loading it onto the ESP32

              ruenahcmohr@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #41

              @MLE_online oh easy, but I bet someone would beat me to it. so, I'll hold off trying.

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              • ruenahcmohr@infosec.exchangeR ruenahcmohr@infosec.exchange

                @MLE_online oh easy, but I bet someone would beat me to it. so, I'll hold off trying.

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                #42

                @RueNahcMohr what if everyone says that and no one does it?

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                • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                  I have no idea which pins of the esp32 those lines going to the LED driver are associated with, btw. They put a giant blob of very stiff silicone over all of that

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                  @MLE_online I remove conformal coating (which is usually silicone-based) with acetone. Maybe put some on the pcb and let it work its way under the blob?

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                  • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                    @RueNahcMohr what if everyone says that and no one does it?

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                    @MLE_online then there will still be someone who tips first and finishes before I do.
                    I would like to see the blob side of the pcb tho.

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                    • ruenahcmohr@infosec.exchangeR ruenahcmohr@infosec.exchange

                      @MLE_online then there will still be someone who tips first and finishes before I do.
                      I would like to see the blob side of the pcb tho.

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                      #45

                      @RueNahcMohr here you go. I got most of the blob off

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                      • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                        Hey yeah! Esp32 pico!

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                        #46

                        @MLE_online
                        Aside from everything else, it is simply utterly ridiculous to have a computer in a fucking lightbulb.

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                        • botvolution@mastodon.sdf.orgB botvolution@mastodon.sdf.org

                          @MLE_online
                          Aside from everything else, it is simply utterly ridiculous to have a computer in a fucking lightbulb.

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                          @botvolution that's because it's not a lightbulb. It's bezosnet spying device

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                          • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                            I found an amazon basics color changing smart light bulb attached to a lamp my neighbor threw in the apartment dumpster.

                            Apparently you can only change the color by giving the bulb access to your wifi network and using the alexa app on your phone. Very stupid.

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                            #48

                            @MLE_online #Amazon is notorious for crippling products to force their walled garden.

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                            • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                              I have no idea which pins of the esp32 those lines going to the LED driver are associated with, btw. They put a giant blob of very stiff silicone over all of that

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                              #49

                              It looks like it's specifically one of these

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                              • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                @RueNahcMohr here you go. I got most of the blob off

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                                @MLE_online @RueNahcMohr That looks like a wireless card attached to a power supply. The blob may have the logic underneath. It might be a gate array, if they don't need to ever change the IP they talk to. Some companies hate paying programmers, and who needs a CPU, anyway? I haven't noticed anything to store the IP data yet, but I'm more software/firmware than hardware. It probably isn't socketed, because that would cost money in the form of pennies. Product numbers off of the stuff under the blob would be helpful.

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                                • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                  @botvolution that's because it's not a lightbulb. It's bezosnet spying device

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                                  @MLE_online @botvolution The EnshittiBulb

                                  on that same note I'm planning on writing my state representatives about AB 2047 because that just sounds like an absolute License to Enshittify for the few 3d printer manufacturers who would jump through all those hoops and probably do it by tying their devices, including ones bought with public funding for schools, to a cloud service that can just Go Away and brick the printers, or force you to buy the manufacturer's own RFID tagged filament

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                                  • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                    Ok, it's controlling a BP1838 3 channel dimmable LED driver chip: https://datasheet4u.com/datasheets/BPS/BP1638CJ/1495890

                                    If someone out there is smart and wants to try throwing some code together to see if it will work outside of the amazon ecosystem, let me know and I'll try loading it onto the ESP32

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                                    @MLE_online dump its firmware. 🙂

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                                    • steter@mastodon.stevesworld.coS steter@mastodon.stevesworld.co

                                      @MLE_online @RueNahcMohr That looks like a wireless card attached to a power supply. The blob may have the logic underneath. It might be a gate array, if they don't need to ever change the IP they talk to. Some companies hate paying programmers, and who needs a CPU, anyway? I haven't noticed anything to store the IP data yet, but I'm more software/firmware than hardware. It probably isn't socketed, because that would cost money in the form of pennies. Product numbers off of the stuff under the blob would be helpful.

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                                      @steter @RueNahcMohr It's an ESP32 pico v3 zero attached to a power supply

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                                      • maehw@chaos.socialM maehw@chaos.social

                                        @MLE_online dump its firmware. 🙂

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                                        @maehw I don't know how to do that

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                                        • vxo@digipres.clubV vxo@digipres.club

                                          @MLE_online @botvolution The EnshittiBulb

                                          on that same note I'm planning on writing my state representatives about AB 2047 because that just sounds like an absolute License to Enshittify for the few 3d printer manufacturers who would jump through all those hoops and probably do it by tying their devices, including ones bought with public funding for schools, to a cloud service that can just Go Away and brick the printers, or force you to buy the manufacturer's own RFID tagged filament

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                                          @vxo @botvolution You should explain what AB 2047 is for people who don't know what that is.

                                          The lawmaker proposing that bill is also proposing to require drivers licenses for ebike. She's on a roll with stupid ideas right now

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