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  3. I found an amazon basics color changing smart light bulb attached to a lamp my neighbor threw in the apartment dumpster.

I found an amazon basics color changing smart light bulb attached to a lamp my neighbor threw in the apartment dumpster.

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  • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

    @MLE_online I'd be surprised if they took effort to lock people out, but I guess it's possible that they use a blanket approach with code signing, since it *does* represent attack surface

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    @SnoopJ yeah but there's also the matter of me having to figure out how to reverse engineer everything else so I can come up with some code to control the LEDs and connect to it over WiFi

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    • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

      @SnoopJ yeah but there's also the matter of me having to figure out how to reverse engineer everything else so I can come up with some code to control the LEDs and connect to it over WiFi

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      @MLE_online I was wondering if you wanted to re-use that hardware, but I'm not shocked that you're thinking along those lines, yea.

      here's hoping ๐Ÿคž

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      • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

        Hey yeah! Esp32 pico!

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        Brute force works

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        • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

          @SnoopJ yeah but there's also the matter of me having to figure out how to reverse engineer everything else so I can come up with some code to control the LEDs and connect to it over WiFi

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          @MLE_online @SnoopJ You've seen https://github.com/wilco375/ESP-Firmware-Toolbox ?

          EDIT: and RX/TX pins are shown on page 9 of https://documentation.espressif.com/esp32-pico-v3-zero_datasheet_en.pdf . Not sure which one is GPIO0.

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          • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

            @MLE_online I was wondering if you wanted to re-use that hardware, but I'm not shocked that you're thinking along those lines, yea.

            here's hoping ๐Ÿคž

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            @SnoopJ what else would someone do?

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            • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

              I found an amazon basics color changing smart light bulb attached to a lamp my neighbor threw in the apartment dumpster.

              Apparently you can only change the color by giving the bulb access to your wifi network and using the alexa app on your phone. Very stupid.

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              @MLE_online We had a stove with a built-in air fryer that required access to a wifi network. Why???

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              • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                Brute force works

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                @MLE_online

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                • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                  @SnoopJ what else would someone do?

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                  @MLE_online I was thinking from a perspective of "an ESP32 is generally useful for lots of things" (assuming it hasn't been locked out with secure boot)

                  I guess an instinctual slide into thinking about rescuing microprocessors etc. from landfill and putting them to other purposes, which I think about not-infrequently

                  but of course re-using the LEDs and associated fixins would be nice too

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                  • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                    Brute force works

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                    @MLE_online I like to think of it as percussive maintenance lol

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                    • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                      @MLE_online this is why i follow you. for the weird shit you do with power tools ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ

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                      @blogdiva @MLE_online

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                      • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                        Brute force works

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                        @MLE_online the tip of the socket is a ribbed pin that can be force-pulled out, it locks in a wire.

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                          @nickzoic @MLE_online The part poking into the LED area is the antenna. The rest of the board is fine inside of the base of the bulb surrounded by metal, but that faraday cage ain't going to work for the the wifi antenna.

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                          • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                            Brute force works

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                            It's free! And it looks like all the relevant pins are broken out

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                            • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                              @MLE_online I was thinking from a perspective of "an ESP32 is generally useful for lots of things" (assuming it hasn't been locked out with secure boot)

                              I guess an instinctual slide into thinking about rescuing microprocessors etc. from landfill and putting them to other purposes, which I think about not-infrequently

                              but of course re-using the LEDs and associated fixins would be nice too

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                              @SnoopJ @MLE_online
                              Going at it with power supply tricks to glitch around the security and reflash could itself be valued science.

                              Likewise microprobing with narishige micromanipulators on the die to get past it might be cool too.

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                              • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                                @MLE_online I was thinking from a perspective of "an ESP32 is generally useful for lots of things" (assuming it hasn't been locked out with secure boot)

                                I guess an instinctual slide into thinking about rescuing microprocessors etc. from landfill and putting them to other purposes, which I think about not-infrequently

                                but of course re-using the LEDs and associated fixins would be nice too

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                                @SnoopJ oh yea, that would be a good thing, too. It just already have a bunch of esp32s around here though

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                                • scribblesonnapkins@mastodon.socialS scribblesonnapkins@mastodon.social

                                  @SnoopJ @MLE_online
                                  Going at it with power supply tricks to glitch around the security and reflash could itself be valued science.

                                  Likewise microprobing with narishige micromanipulators on the die to get past it might be cool too.

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                                  @scribblesonnapkins guessing that's beyond the scope of what @MLE_online is after here, but it *is* making me wonder what people have done in this vein to try and defeat the secure boot

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                                  • scribblesonnapkins@mastodon.socialS scribblesonnapkins@mastodon.social

                                    @SnoopJ @MLE_online
                                    Going at it with power supply tricks to glitch around the security and reflash could itself be valued science.

                                    Likewise microprobing with narishige micromanipulators on the die to get past it might be cool too.

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                                    @scribblesonnapkins @SnoopJ I wouldn't know how to do any of that

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                                    • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                      It's free! And it looks like all the relevant pins are broken out

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                                      @MLE_online Oooh that's handy! ๐Ÿ˜€

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                                      • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

                                        It's free! And it looks like all the relevant pins are broken out

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                                        Ok, it's controlling a BP1838 3 channel dimmable LED driver chip: https://datasheet4u.com/datasheets/BPS/BP1638CJ/1495890

                                        If someone out there is smart and wants to try throwing some code together to see if it will work outside of the amazon ecosystem, let me know and I'll try loading it onto the ESP32

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                                        • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                                          @scribblesonnapkins guessing that's beyond the scope of what @MLE_online is after here, but it *is* making me wonder what people have done in this vein to try and defeat the secure boot

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                                          @SnoopJ @MLE_online
                                          They have on other processors but I don't know about this one.

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