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My week starts with a request: "I need a server to deploy to production, but the devs have no idea how to do it.

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  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

    My week starts with a request: "I need a server to deploy to production, but the devs have no idea how to do it. They don't know how to use the terminal, they don’t know how to handle certificates, nothing. They need to be able to click a few buttons and deploy directly to production. They're Vibe Coding experts."

    Welcome to 2026.

    #SysAdmin #IT

    thepanz@phpc.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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    @stefano isn't "Experts" quite misleading if connected to "Vibe Coding"? 😁

    good luck!

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    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

      My week starts with a request: "I need a server to deploy to production, but the devs have no idea how to do it. They don't know how to use the terminal, they don’t know how to handle certificates, nothing. They need to be able to click a few buttons and deploy directly to production. They're Vibe Coding experts."

      Welcome to 2026.

      #SysAdmin #IT

      pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafeP This user is from outside of this forum
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      @stefano I'm sorry you have to deal with this. Hope they're paying well.

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      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        My week starts with a request: "I need a server to deploy to production, but the devs have no idea how to do it. They don't know how to use the terminal, they don’t know how to handle certificates, nothing. They need to be able to click a few buttons and deploy directly to production. They're Vibe Coding experts."

        Welcome to 2026.

        #SysAdmin #IT

        tyrthecat@social.treehouse.systemsT This user is from outside of this forum
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        @stefano I find a similar thing happening more often with my colleagues too.

        I think the luck of knowing can be fine, after all I didn't know what I know now and I keep leaning new things. I find the real problem is the lack of willingness or incentives to learn new things.
        And I really don't understand why people that call themselves developers would not want to learn or how to change that in them (I doubt anyone but them could really change that).

        Ignoring the vibe coders aspect because well vibe coders.

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        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

          My week starts with a request: "I need a server to deploy to production, but the devs have no idea how to do it. They don't know how to use the terminal, they don’t know how to handle certificates, nothing. They need to be able to click a few buttons and deploy directly to production. They're Vibe Coding experts."

          Welcome to 2026.

          #SysAdmin #IT

          dreadfulsanity@mstdn.gamesD This user is from outside of this forum
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          @stefano I'm not a dev, but I am married to one and this hurts my soul.

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          • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

            @mms I'm not finding them. They're finding me...

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            @stefano Well, you solve problems. The have A problem.

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            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

              My week starts with a request: "I need a server to deploy to production, but the devs have no idea how to do it. They don't know how to use the terminal, they don’t know how to handle certificates, nothing. They need to be able to click a few buttons and deploy directly to production. They're Vibe Coding experts."

              Welcome to 2026.

              #SysAdmin #IT

              ajinkyapdahale@mstdn.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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              @stefano "devs"

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              • pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafeP pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                @stefano I'm sorry you have to deal with this. Hope they're paying well.

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                @pertho not well enough. But I still have to do it 🙂

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                • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  My week starts with a request: "I need a server to deploy to production, but the devs have no idea how to do it. They don't know how to use the terminal, they don’t know how to handle certificates, nothing. They need to be able to click a few buttons and deploy directly to production. They're Vibe Coding experts."

                  Welcome to 2026.

                  #SysAdmin #IT

                  zeitverschreib@freundica.deZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @stefano There's a clear misuse of the term "devs".
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                  • zeitverschreib@freundica.deZ zeitverschreib@freundica.de
                    @stefano There's a clear misuse of the term "devs".
                    stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @zeitverschreib That's the real problem. People are starting to accept the idea that a dev is actually a "vibe coder".

                    This is (extremely) dangerous.

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                    • tyrthecat@social.treehouse.systemsT tyrthecat@social.treehouse.systems

                      @stefano I find a similar thing happening more often with my colleagues too.

                      I think the luck of knowing can be fine, after all I didn't know what I know now and I keep leaning new things. I find the real problem is the lack of willingness or incentives to learn new things.
                      And I really don't understand why people that call themselves developers would not want to learn or how to change that in them (I doubt anyone but them could really change that).

                      Ignoring the vibe coders aspect because well vibe coders.

                      stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @tyrthecat true

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                      • coldclimate@hachyderm.ioC coldclimate@hachyderm.io

                        @stefano they could vibe code a server deployment if they tried I'm sure

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                        @stefano they are experts after all

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                        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          My week starts with a request: "I need a server to deploy to production, but the devs have no idea how to do it. They don't know how to use the terminal, they don’t know how to handle certificates, nothing. They need to be able to click a few buttons and deploy directly to production. They're Vibe Coding experts."

                          Welcome to 2026.

                          #SysAdmin #IT

                          sylvia@social.lolS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @stefano oh wow. I don’t even know where to start on that one!

                          Vibe coding experts is such a stupid term. A kid who can type in ai can call themselves that. Geesh. Just think of how much knowledge can get lost in just one generation. Baffling.

                          And then to run a server later on without even being able to use the terminal!

                          Years ago that was the first I learned as a Linux server admin and it’s still my default 😀

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                          • coldclimate@hachyderm.ioC coldclimate@hachyderm.io

                            @stefano they are experts after all

                            stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @coldclimate the fun part is that they rely on those Vibe Coding expert for the code, but not for the infrastructure. Luckily, I'd say.

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                            • sylvia@social.lolS sylvia@social.lol

                              @stefano oh wow. I don’t even know where to start on that one!

                              Vibe coding experts is such a stupid term. A kid who can type in ai can call themselves that. Geesh. Just think of how much knowledge can get lost in just one generation. Baffling.

                              And then to run a server later on without even being able to use the terminal!

                              Years ago that was the first I learned as a Linux server admin and it’s still my default 😀

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                              @sylvia It's the same phenomenon that led to the rise of "influencers", meaning people who influence large groups of others without having any particular knowledge or skills. The damage they cause and have caused is incalculable and, in some way, they have taught that you don’t need ability or competence to do things. You just need to know how to present them.

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                              • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                @zeitverschreib That's the real problem. People are starting to accept the idea that a dev is actually a "vibe coder".

                                This is (extremely) dangerous.

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                                @stefano @zeitverschreib I guess it also depends, the tool in itself can be put into good use, if a skilled developer is able to steer it in the right direction. I also had a fair share of “why does my code not work in production” before AI, its a lot to do with the mindset of the person.

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                                • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                  @h3artbl33d I'm not sure about it, as I (still) don't know the purpose of this server.
                                  I've recently deployed Coolify for another similar setup and they're satisfied, so I'll try to understand if that's an option.

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                                  @stefano @h3artbl33d
                                  TIL: #Coolify. Thank you!

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                                  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                    @coldclimate the fun part is that they rely on those Vibe Coding expert for the code, but not for the infrastructure. Luckily, I'd say.

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                                    @stefano I work in an infrastructure/sre team. I drive Claude hard these days and lean into engineer enablement though Claude skills and platform engineering. I have very mixed feelings

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                                    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                      My week starts with a request: "I need a server to deploy to production, but the devs have no idea how to do it. They don't know how to use the terminal, they don’t know how to handle certificates, nothing. They need to be able to click a few buttons and deploy directly to production. They're Vibe Coding experts."

                                      Welcome to 2026.

                                      #SysAdmin #IT

                                      dch@bsd.networkD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @stefano maybe one of these will help https://www.adafruit.com/product/1191 ?

                                      Seriously I have hooked up CI and production status to my 5 1-foot high bear lamps, *so* much fun. Brought to the internet with haproxy for extra nerdery.

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