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  3. I sometimes wonder, in the past 3 or so years, if there was a mass effort to rewrite history on Wikipedia, and to make leftist theories scary to the lay.

I sometimes wonder, in the past 3 or so years, if there was a mass effort to rewrite history on Wikipedia, and to make leftist theories scary to the lay.

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  • fromjason@mastodon.socialF fromjason@mastodon.social

    I sometimes wonder, in the past 3 or so years, if there was a mass effort to rewrite history on Wikipedia, and to make leftist theories scary to the lay.

    Look at the intro paragraphs for "official culture" written in 2023 (left) vs today (right).

    Could they shove the term "Marxist" in there more? Lmao.

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    The Situationists were certainly inspired by Marxist philosophy, but no more than surrealist and Dadaism. Offical Culture and the spectacle are observations independent of Marxism.

    But that description is less scary I suppose.

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    • fromjason@mastodon.socialF fromjason@mastodon.social

      The Situationists were certainly inspired by Marxist philosophy, but no more than surrealist and Dadaism. Offical Culture and the spectacle are observations independent of Marxism.

      But that description is less scary I suppose.

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      It'd be great to get in there and edit some of these pages, but my network is completely blocked from authoring Wikipedia entries.

      Which, then makes me wonder, how Wikipedia's policy for blocking networks is effecting diversity. My neighborhood is mostly Puerto Rican and other Caribbean people. None of us are able to participate in the authoring of our own history because Wikipedia blocks us.

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      • fromjason@mastodon.socialF fromjason@mastodon.social

        It'd be great to get in there and edit some of these pages, but my network is completely blocked from authoring Wikipedia entries.

        Which, then makes me wonder, how Wikipedia's policy for blocking networks is effecting diversity. My neighborhood is mostly Puerto Rican and other Caribbean people. None of us are able to participate in the authoring of our own history because Wikipedia blocks us.

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        I follow a lot of Wikipedians. They're great. Honestly one of my favorite internet communities.

        But, of course, the American Wikipedia community is disproportionately white. And there isn't much curiosity as to why.

        That is what irks me. If you're a part of a community that lacks diversity, it is your responsibility to ask why.

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        • fromjason@mastodon.socialF fromjason@mastodon.social

          It'd be great to get in there and edit some of these pages, but my network is completely blocked from authoring Wikipedia entries.

          Which, then makes me wonder, how Wikipedia's policy for blocking networks is effecting diversity. My neighborhood is mostly Puerto Rican and other Caribbean people. None of us are able to participate in the authoring of our own history because Wikipedia blocks us.

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          @fromjason IP blocks only apply to those editing without an account: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:I_have_been_blocked

          Account creation is a really simple process, but are many wikipedians here who are willing to help with it if there are issues

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            I follow a lot of Wikipedians. They're great. Honestly one of my favorite internet communities.

            But, of course, the American Wikipedia community is disproportionately white. And there isn't much curiosity as to why.

            That is what irks me. If you're a part of a community that lacks diversity, it is your responsibility to ask why.

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            This thread took a turn lol but as I was writing it I remembered that I emailed Wikipedia asking for help with the block and never received a reply.

            I was reading some very incorrect history about the Ponce Massacre with dubious sources and I, ask a Puerto Rican who knows the history, couldn't do anything about it.

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            • cxiao@infosec.exchangeC cxiao@infosec.exchange

              @fromjason IP blocks only apply to those editing without an account: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:I_have_been_blocked

              Account creation is a really simple process, but are many wikipedians here who are willing to help with it if there are issues

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              @cxiao thanks! I've been down this road. It was maybe a year or so ago so I don't remember the details but I do know I never got a reply back

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                @fromjason IP blocks only apply to those editing without an account: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:I_have_been_blocked

                Account creation is a really simple process, but are many wikipedians here who are willing to help with it if there are issues

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                @fromjason For Puerto Rico, also see Wikiproject Puerto Rico: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Puerto_Rico

                As with many other projects on wikipedia it's only a small handful of dedicated contributors, so any new editors would be awesome!

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                • cxiao@infosec.exchangeC cxiao@infosec.exchange

                  @fromjason For Puerto Rico, also see Wikiproject Puerto Rico: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Puerto_Rico

                  As with many other projects on wikipedia it's only a small handful of dedicated contributors, so any new editors would be awesome!

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                  @cxiao thanks. I'm sure the community would be welcoming. But I've had no success joining.

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                  • fromjason@mastodon.socialF fromjason@mastodon.social

                    @cxiao thanks. I'm sure the community would be welcoming. But I've had no success joining.

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                    @cxiao even trying to log back into my account, I had to reset my password and it brings me to this page each time.

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                    • fromjason@mastodon.socialF fromjason@mastodon.social

                      @cxiao even trying to log back into my account, I had to reset my password and it brings me to this page each time.

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                      @fromjason Ugh, sorry you ran into this; this is a great example of some password reset spammers ruining things for everyone else πŸ˜•

                      If you are still willing to go down this rabbit hole, and are able to create a new account, that is what I would recommend doing. Wikipedia is super anal about only having one account per user, but losing your password is one of the legitimate cases where it's acceptable to have multiple: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry#COMPSOCK

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