Eliminate 100% of all Medicare/Medicaid fraud with this one simple trick!
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Eliminate 100% of all Medicare/Medicaid fraud with this one simple trick!
Adopt universal health care.
(You'll also be starting to tackle homelessness and welfare fraud, too!)
@GeePawHill Eliminate all fare dodging by making public transport free.
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That's the rub, folks who are on those programs, Snap, Wic, Medicaid, welfare can't afford to defraud the programs, if they do part or all of the aid is gone. It's not as if there is another game. Most all fraud in any of them is white collar. But every time the GOP hears the word Fraud they assume it's the folks on the bottom. I was a caseworker for welfare/SNAP, we had 5 federal, state, local, in house watchers that came around to be sure there was no fraud. Enough BS.
@A_Minion @GeePawHill Yes, this! As a Medicaid provider myself, I pay attention to accusations of fraud in my community, and while I certainly don’t know everything that is going on, every instance of Medicaid fraud I’ve heard of involved a *provider* billing for services that weren’t actually rendered, rather than a recipient trying to game the system. Blaming and scapegoating the people just trying to get basic healthcare is just wrong.
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@GeePawHill How does that work? Do you have a description of what a fraud resistant implementation of universal health care would look like? I ask because medicare fraud from doctors telling medicare they did a thing when they didn't, seems to work just as well when everyone is covered by health care. So I'm trying to understand the mechanism here.
@ChuckMcManis @GeePawHill Yes, of course this happens in universal healthcare systems too.
Here in Norway there are cases every year of GPs and specialists billing the system for things they did not do. They often get caught by the checks and balances in the system.
Fraud is not a reason to either to change to universal healthcare or to stay with the current system existing in the USofA.
Fraud is fraud.
Healthcare is a human right and universal healthcare brings universal benefits to people.
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@GeePawHill How does that work? Do you have a description of what a fraud resistant implementation of universal health care would look like? I ask because medicare fraud from doctors telling medicare they did a thing when they didn't, seems to work just as well when everyone is covered by health care. So I'm trying to understand the mechanism here.
@ChuckMcManis @GeePawHill Fraud exists in robber baron capitalist systems, corrupt oligarchies, dictatorships, theocracies as well as mixed social-market economic systems. Fraud existed in the state capitalist systems of the former USSR.
In all cases driven by the profit motive.
In all of these systems such corruption only exists due to a lack of checks and balances, audits and controls, and the absence of meaningful sanctions should people get caught.
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@A_Minion @GeePawHill Yes, this! As a Medicaid provider myself, I pay attention to accusations of fraud in my community, and while I certainly don’t know everything that is going on, every instance of Medicaid fraud I’ve heard of involved a *provider* billing for services that weren’t actually rendered, rather than a recipient trying to game the system. Blaming and scapegoating the people just trying to get basic healthcare is just wrong.
The people who are dependent can't afford the last of the places to get help. I've watched this system grow & conclude that the problem is not the people at the bottom. It's the refusal of the owners & leaders to pay a living wage. I'm from the 50's what we had then was the promise of what happens when my $1.25hr pay was enough to live on. We had an education to be envied. All it needed was to be expanded for all. corporations were doing fine. Nixon killed it All.
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@gnaddrig
I'm going to challenge that point of view. This bit was from the Bulwark (https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-real-story-behind-the-minnesota-welfare-fraud-scandal) on the Minnesota fraud 'story'. Sure, there is some unproven allegations of "immigrants" getting free medical care on the taxpayers dime (because racism) but that has not been typically "medicare fraud". I'm still curious how universal health care would address what the Bulwark was reporting as fraud.@ChuckMcManis @GeePawHill
I agree, that type of fraud would not be affected much by the introduction of universal healthcare. To stop that sort of thing would require better oversight and, I guess, a better setup of the recognition and payment processes. -
@Funcan @GeePawHill Huge proportion of mental health issues are exacerbated, where they're not caused, by poverty. Ensuring even basic healthcare without adding more financial stress is a big deal.
@calicoday @GeePawHill I can believe that entirely. Good point
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@ChuckMcManis @GeePawHill Yes, of course this happens in universal healthcare systems too.
Here in Norway there are cases every year of GPs and specialists billing the system for things they did not do. They often get caught by the checks and balances in the system.
Fraud is not a reason to either to change to universal healthcare or to stay with the current system existing in the USofA.
Fraud is fraud.
Healthcare is a human right and universal healthcare brings universal benefits to people.
@the_wub @ChuckMcManis @GeePawHill My bank messages me when I spend something with my card/phone. If we got messaged any time someone put something on our account, it would be a lot harder. In fact just today I had to approve the bulk billing of my flu vaccination via the doctor's app in Australia where we have universal health care.
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