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Cis people: normalize introducing yourself with your pronouns.

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  • zappes@mastodon.onlineZ zappes@mastodon.online

    @RnDanger @forse Yes, you are mischaracterising my position. I am perfectly fine with referring to you using whichever pronouns you prefer. This is a consequence of me finding gender utterly irrelevant while still respecting your choice of seeing that differently.

    I draw the line when somebody expects me to care about this in any way. I don‘t. I will not introduce myself pretending that I care about that stuff.

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    @zappes@mastodon.online @RnDanger @forse You totally missed the point of the original post.

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    • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

      Cis people: normalize introducing yourself with your pronouns.

      If only trans and gnc people do it, we're outing ourselves. If we don't, we accept getting misgendered. And when cis people do it, it acclimates other cis people to the practice and makes it safer for trans and gnc people.

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      @theleftistlawyer our corpo stuffed pronouns into /everyone's display name/ in ldap, so they show up in email & chat & calendar.

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      • zappes@mastodon.onlineZ zappes@mastodon.online

        @forse @RnDanger Please do kindly fuck yourself in whatever way you find the most enjoyable.

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        @zappes @forse @RnDanger If you don't care so much why do you feel the need to interject your opinion about it?? I'm injecting mine because you're an asshole and I get annoyed seeing idiots talking tough like they're someone.
        Fuck all the way off please. Any pronouns you want to use during your inevitable insulting reply is fine.

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        • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

          Cis people: normalize introducing yourself with your pronouns.

          If only trans and gnc people do it, we're outing ourselves. If we don't, we accept getting misgendered. And when cis people do it, it acclimates other cis people to the practice and makes it safer for trans and gnc people.

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          @theleftistlawyer i, a cis-passing person, stopped this week thinking about this. i was joining a meeting and thinking about adding my pronouns to my display name despite everyone most likely guessing the ones i prefer.

          but then i thought that other people have to add their pronouns if they want people to use the correct ones for them, while i have the privilege of being able to omit them and others still using my preferred pronouns.

          finally, i wondered if including pronouns would ruffle any feathers and decided if so, those are feathers that need to be ruffled because human rights and inclusivity do not upset people with their head on straight.

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          • oberstenzian@mastodon.socialO oberstenzian@mastodon.social

            @zappes @forse @RnDanger Oh wow. @zappes is kinda wilding out now. He gets a block for that.

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            @oberstenzian @zappes@mastodon.online @forse @RnDanger totes ✊💜

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            • oberstenzian@mastodon.socialO oberstenzian@mastodon.social

              @zappes @RnDanger @forse Then don’t provide pronouns and don’t complain when other people do. And leave us LGTBQIA+ folks alone. We don’t need or want help from centrists.

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              @oberstenzian @zappes@mastodon.online @RnDanger @forse a lossy asset that can’t do pronouns is cut from the social group a decade ago anyway Canada has now clocked a decade with legal X: We’ve normalized the third space even if conservatives aren’t willing to admit it yet.

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              • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                Cis people: normalize introducing yourself with your pronouns.

                If only trans and gnc people do it, we're outing ourselves. If we don't, we accept getting misgendered. And when cis people do it, it acclimates other cis people to the practice and makes it safer for trans and gnc people.

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                @theleftistlawyer If I introduce myself as Claudius, or Claudia (to pick topical examples), am I not implying my pronouns? Perhaps there should be a Claudas too.

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                • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                  Cis people: normalize introducing yourself with your pronouns.

                  If only trans and gnc people do it, we're outing ourselves. If we don't, we accept getting misgendered. And when cis people do it, it acclimates other cis people to the practice and makes it safer for trans and gnc people.

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                  @theleftistlawyer no thanks, love you

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                  • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                    Cis people: normalize introducing yourself with your pronouns.

                    If only trans and gnc people do it, we're outing ourselves. If we don't, we accept getting misgendered. And when cis people do it, it acclimates other cis people to the practice and makes it safer for trans and gnc people.

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                    @theleftistlawyer We can support trans rights without this gatekeeping.

                    People want to be addressed a certain way, I'll happily accommodate them to their hearts delight. Want trans rights, or any human rights, I'll support, vote, and advocate it.

                    Want to add a redundant pronoun to an intro, the majority of the population doesn't need, no thanks. And the outing isn't a compelling argument. If you get misgendered, the correct pronoun is going to out you, if you don't, you don't need the pronoun.

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                    • zappes@mastodon.onlineZ zappes@mastodon.online

                      @theleftistlawyer @lisamelton The problem is that this request alienates a population that is intrinsically on your side: People who don‘t give a fuck. You can call me me he, she, it or wally, I simply don‘t care. Which is exactly why I generally feel a lot of sympathy towards people who challenge the status quo of caring about bullshit like that. But if you force me to take sides, I‘ll have a strong tendency towards not giving a shit.

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                      @zappes @theleftistlawyer @lisamelton
                      You being a good person, charitable, witty and interesting is far more interesting than what imaginary social classification we've bucketed ourselves into.
                      Hello fellow entity, I come in peace.

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