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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

    back when i was a child my bedtime reading was "Advanced Win32 Programming" by Jeffrey Richter and maybe i should do that again but make it the basics of DSP or something. this would probably benefit my mental health

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    @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems may i suggest https://raytracing.github.io/ and/or https://pbr-book.org/ ? (though only the latter has printed copies available i think)

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    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

      i'm considering asking people to recommend me bad books

      it's easy to get people to recommend you good books! however, good books make me feel things, often quite intensely. i think usually this is appreciated however i am living what is considered an "interesting life" already and i really don't need a book to put me on the edge in addition to all of the things that normally put me on the edge, like "stalkers" or "immigration" or "wondering if someone i know got shot", etc. similarly i have thought enough about the nature of identity that i'm quite done with it for a while.

      most recently i have read Blindsight, which was a good book, but it made me conclude that if i have to choose between another good book and 10 hours straight of youtube shorts, the latter will passively benefit my life by not taking up more of it than i can spare

      please recommend me your favorite bad book

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      @whitequark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principia_Mathematica

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      • unnick@booping.synth.downloadU unnick@booping.synth.download

        @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems may i suggest https://raytracing.github.io/ and/or https://pbr-book.org/ ? (though only the latter has printed copies available i think)

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        @unnick oh i can't really read paper books (something about the way paper feels on my fingertips is just viscerally upsetting)

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        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

          @pelavarre i don't! this is the first time i've ever seen the word anywhere

          (i had assumed something like that exists but not the specific name)

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          @whitequark @pelavarre I've not heard cozycore!

          But on the cosy fantasy side, I felt the same after reading Blindsight and immediately reached straight for the next in the Legends and Lattes series.

          Can't Spell Treason Without Tea is up there, too

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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            i'm considering asking people to recommend me bad books

            it's easy to get people to recommend you good books! however, good books make me feel things, often quite intensely. i think usually this is appreciated however i am living what is considered an "interesting life" already and i really don't need a book to put me on the edge in addition to all of the things that normally put me on the edge, like "stalkers" or "immigration" or "wondering if someone i know got shot", etc. similarly i have thought enough about the nature of identity that i'm quite done with it for a while.

            most recently i have read Blindsight, which was a good book, but it made me conclude that if i have to choose between another good book and 10 hours straight of youtube shorts, the latter will passively benefit my life by not taking up more of it than i can spare

            please recommend me your favorite bad book

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            @whitequark I mean there are like entire genres of fun reads that aren't challenging at all. Romance(primarily straight though kindle and kobo have a bunch of lgbtq versions of the genre) and litrpg which are literally book version of the number goes up feeling.

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            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

              back when i was a child my bedtime reading was "Advanced Win32 Programming" by Jeffrey Richter and maybe i should do that again but make it the basics of DSP or something. this would probably benefit my mental health

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              @whitequark this appears to be some new meaning of "benefit" that I am totally unaware of.

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              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                i'm considering asking people to recommend me bad books

                it's easy to get people to recommend you good books! however, good books make me feel things, often quite intensely. i think usually this is appreciated however i am living what is considered an "interesting life" already and i really don't need a book to put me on the edge in addition to all of the things that normally put me on the edge, like "stalkers" or "immigration" or "wondering if someone i know got shot", etc. similarly i have thought enough about the nature of identity that i'm quite done with it for a while.

                most recently i have read Blindsight, which was a good book, but it made me conclude that if i have to choose between another good book and 10 hours straight of youtube shorts, the latter will passively benefit my life by not taking up more of it than i can spare

                please recommend me your favorite bad book

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                @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems idk if you can really call it bad, but I found reading Day of the Oprichnik non-intense, even though it's written well and is quite funny

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                  back when i was a child my bedtime reading was "Advanced Win32 Programming" by Jeffrey Richter and maybe i should do that again but make it the basics of DSP or something. this would probably benefit my mental health

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                  @whitequark have you read Ignition! yet (it's hard to get legitimately but I have an epub I can send you)

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                  • pokemod97@social.treehouse.systemsP pokemod97@social.treehouse.systems

                    @whitequark I mean there are like entire genres of fun reads that aren't challenging at all. Romance(primarily straight though kindle and kobo have a bunch of lgbtq versions of the genre) and litrpg which are literally book version of the number goes up feeling.

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                    @Pokemod97 yes, my issue here is specifically with the phenomenon of "ask someone in my environment for a book recommendation" → "get flashbanged for three days"

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                    • ignaloidas@not.acu.ltI ignaloidas@not.acu.lt

                      @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems idk if you can really call it bad, but I found reading Day of the Oprichnik non-intense, even though it's written well and is quite funny

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                      @ignaloidas they... translated Sorokin to English?

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                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                        @ignaloidas they... translated Sorokin to English?

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                        @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems I read it in Lithuanian, but yes

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                        • ignaloidas@not.acu.ltI ignaloidas@not.acu.lt

                          @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems I read it in Lithuanian, but yes

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                          @ignaloidas huh he's a lot more popular than i thought

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                          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                            i'm considering asking people to recommend me bad books

                            it's easy to get people to recommend you good books! however, good books make me feel things, often quite intensely. i think usually this is appreciated however i am living what is considered an "interesting life" already and i really don't need a book to put me on the edge in addition to all of the things that normally put me on the edge, like "stalkers" or "immigration" or "wondering if someone i know got shot", etc. similarly i have thought enough about the nature of identity that i'm quite done with it for a while.

                            most recently i have read Blindsight, which was a good book, but it made me conclude that if i have to choose between another good book and 10 hours straight of youtube shorts, the latter will passively benefit my life by not taking up more of it than i can spare

                            please recommend me your favorite bad book

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                            @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems Dune

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                            • nxskok@cupoftea.socialN nxskok@cupoftea.social

                              @whitequark this appears to be some new meaning of "benefit" that I am totally unaware of.

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                              @nxskok I've actually considered using PASIAS as bedtime reading with similar reasoning, but concluded I'll need to engage more than that with the subject material to get what I want out of it

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                              • crow@irlqt.netC crow@irlqt.net

                                @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems Dune

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                                @crow literally in progress, and I feel like that's still too far into the "I am feeling things and their amount is too high" territory

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                                • bob@feed.hella.cheapB bob@feed.hella.cheap

                                  @whitequark have you read Ignition! yet (it's hard to get legitimately but I have an epub I can send you)

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                                  @bob years ago yeah

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                                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                    @ignaloidas huh he's a lot more popular than i thought

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                                    @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems russian litterature does tend to be a bit of a hit or miss when translated to english, I think it really depends on the author and how they use the language.

                                    E.g. Max Frei books are fucking amazing, but the translations to english just flopped because it's just hard to translate

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                                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                      @Pokemod97 yes, my issue here is specifically with the phenomenon of "ask someone in my environment for a book recommendation" → "get flashbanged for three days"

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                                      @whitequark Ah in my experience turn off your brain books are perfect for recommendation algorithms. Flashbanged are human recommendations almost entirely defined by their nature. I have read 12 romance books in a weekend and enjoyed it but couldn't tell you the title when I'm done.

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                                      • ignaloidas@not.acu.ltI ignaloidas@not.acu.lt

                                        @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems russian litterature does tend to be a bit of a hit or miss when translated to english, I think it really depends on the author and how they use the language.

                                        E.g. Max Frei books are fucking amazing, but the translations to english just flopped because it's just hard to translate

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                                        @ignaloidas i've read basically every book in the Echo series in its original language, yeah. I have... mixed feelings about them in retrospect. I think they're well written and I liked them at the time but certain resemblances to my actual life leave an unhappy observation

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                                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                          i'm considering asking people to recommend me bad books

                                          it's easy to get people to recommend you good books! however, good books make me feel things, often quite intensely. i think usually this is appreciated however i am living what is considered an "interesting life" already and i really don't need a book to put me on the edge in addition to all of the things that normally put me on the edge, like "stalkers" or "immigration" or "wondering if someone i know got shot", etc. similarly i have thought enough about the nature of identity that i'm quite done with it for a while.

                                          most recently i have read Blindsight, which was a good book, but it made me conclude that if i have to choose between another good book and 10 hours straight of youtube shorts, the latter will passively benefit my life by not taking up more of it than i can spare

                                          please recommend me your favorite bad book

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                                          @whitequark when thinking of bad books I have a fallback to this Arthur C. Clarke book. But I forgot the name so I looked it up on the net only to find my own GoodReads review from 2016 marked with 2 stars.

                                          Without further ado:

                                          1. Arthur C. Clarke — Islands in the Sky (1952)

                                          This book is great for people who don't like/feel emotions because ACC fails to evoke any, though.

                                          And another one while I had my GR profile open:

                                          2. Nicolas Evans — The Horse Whisperer (1995)

                                          Two people fuck around but nobody finds out or has hard feelings (not even slightest regrets of adultery). There are also horses, for the background.

                                          Edit: This book was weirdly often attached to Tell-Don't-Show which added to worsen the reading sensation

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