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There is a fresh thing going around about LinkedIn scanning extensions installed in Chrome/Chromium:https://browsergate.eu/

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  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

    @jrp literally the only link in this thread, literally in the first toot of the thread.

    jrp@hub.kliklak.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 Wheps 😉
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    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

      The explanation might be reasonable, because extensions do affect how websites work, sometimes negatively, and the list of extensions here seems to contain mostly extensions specifically interfacing with LinkedIn.

      But here's my point: this kind of scanning is an overkill. And that alone is already bad enough and infuriating.

      There is no need to make overblown, click-baity claims like BrowserGate site does. That just muddies the waters ("wait, how are they scanning my computer?!").

      🧵

      dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @rysiek
      > The explanation might be reasonable, because extensions do affect how websites work, sometimes negatively, and the list of extensions here seems to contain mostly extensions specifically interfacing with LinkedIn.

      I'm on the fence between calling BS because HTTP 4xx codes exist, and just shrugging saying “JavaScript”.

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      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

        The explanation might be reasonable, because extensions do affect how websites work, sometimes negatively, and the list of extensions here seems to contain mostly extensions specifically interfacing with LinkedIn.

        But here's my point: this kind of scanning is an overkill. And that alone is already bad enough and infuriating.

        There is no need to make overblown, click-baity claims like BrowserGate site does. That just muddies the waters ("wait, how are they scanning my computer?!").

        🧵

        rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        I was not aware of the technique the scanning employs, but apparently it's a known issue on Chrome and Chromium-based browsers, and has been for years:
        https://browserleaks.com/chrome

        LinkedIn itself has been using it since 2017:
        https://github.com/dandrews/nefarious-linkedin

        And I am sure it is used by a lot of shady sites to fingerprint users and actually figure out protected information about them. It can absolutely be used that way, and Google needs to plug this huge privacy hole.

        🧵/end

        #Chrome #BrowserGate #Privacy

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        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

          There is a fresh thing going around about LinkedIn scanning extensions installed in Chrome/Chromium:
          https://browsergate.eu/

          The website claims "LinkedIn is Illegally Searching Your Computer", and implies the purpose is to find "religious beliefs, political opinions, disabilities".

          tl;dr:
          - yes, LinkedIn is scanning through a list of 6k+ extensions on Chrome;
          - yes, this is bad;
          - but the website is disingenuous in making unnecessarily overblown claims.

          🧵

          #LinkedIn #BrowserGate #Privacy

          laukidh@infosec.exchangeL This user is from outside of this forum
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          @rysiek they think “browsergate” is going to stick for one site scanning extensions?

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          • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

            @rysiek
            > The explanation might be reasonable, because extensions do affect how websites work, sometimes negatively, and the list of extensions here seems to contain mostly extensions specifically interfacing with LinkedIn.

            I'm on the fence between calling BS because HTTP 4xx codes exist, and just shrugging saying “JavaScript”.

            rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            @dzwiedziu the explanation is reasonable in the sense of "I cans ee how somebody thought this is a solution to this problem".

            I said before this does not justify this level of scanning though.

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            • laukidh@infosec.exchangeL laukidh@infosec.exchange

              @rysiek they think “browsergate” is going to stick for one site scanning extensions?

              rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @Laukidh yeah, also had that thought

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              • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                There is a fresh thing going around about LinkedIn scanning extensions installed in Chrome/Chromium:
                https://browsergate.eu/

                The website claims "LinkedIn is Illegally Searching Your Computer", and implies the purpose is to find "religious beliefs, political opinions, disabilities".

                tl;dr:
                - yes, LinkedIn is scanning through a list of 6k+ extensions on Chrome;
                - yes, this is bad;
                - but the website is disingenuous in making unnecessarily overblown claims.

                🧵

                #LinkedIn #BrowserGate #Privacy

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                @rysiek Thanks for this analysis. I saw the BrowserGate thing earlier and it seemed bad but also way overblown, but I was not sure if I was missing something.

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                • jrp@hub.kliklak.netJ jrp@hub.kliklak.net
                  @Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 Wheps 😉
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                  @jrp

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                  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                    I was not aware of the technique the scanning employs, but apparently it's a known issue on Chrome and Chromium-based browsers, and has been for years:
                    https://browserleaks.com/chrome

                    LinkedIn itself has been using it since 2017:
                    https://github.com/dandrews/nefarious-linkedin

                    And I am sure it is used by a lot of shady sites to fingerprint users and actually figure out protected information about them. It can absolutely be used that way, and Google needs to plug this huge privacy hole.

                    🧵/end

                    #Chrome #BrowserGate #Privacy

                    rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Also go see what @vantiss has to say about it:
                    https://social.treehouse.systems/@vantiss/116336811478744261

                    Credit where credit's due, I relied on her research on the earliest known instance of LinkedIn using this technique.

                    If you want to boost something, go boost her toot!

                    #BrowserGate #Chrome #Privacy

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                    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                      LinkedIn loads a lot of JS. In that JS there is a list of over 6.000 extensions, identified by their ids and with a single file path provided.

                      The JS then checks if it is running in Chrome or a Chromium-based browser, and cycles through that list, checking if these extensions are installed by doing a fetch() to "chrome-extension://<extension_id>/<file_path>".

                      If the fetch() succeeds, the extension is installed. If not, it isn't.

                      🧵

                      orca@nya.oneO This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @rysiek@mstdn.social wtf why does Chrome allows an untrusted website to do that???
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                      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                        LinkedIn loads a lot of JS. In that JS there is a list of over 6.000 extensions, identified by their ids and with a single file path provided.

                        The JS then checks if it is running in Chrome or a Chromium-based browser, and cycles through that list, checking if these extensions are installed by doing a fetch() to "chrome-extension://<extension_id>/<file_path>".

                        If the fetch() succeeds, the extension is installed. If not, it isn't.

                        🧵

                        schnittchen@tech.lgbtS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @rysiek why ffs is this even possible?

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                        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                          Also go see what @vantiss has to say about it:
                          https://social.treehouse.systems/@vantiss/116336811478744261

                          Credit where credit's due, I relied on her research on the earliest known instance of LinkedIn using this technique.

                          If you want to boost something, go boost her toot!

                          #BrowserGate #Chrome #Privacy

                          moses_izumi@fe.disroot.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @rysiek @vantiss
                          For the record, I'm the guy who pointed her to @kopper 's report.
                          (no hard feelings about stolen credit)
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                          • moses_izumi@fe.disroot.orgM moses_izumi@fe.disroot.org
                            @rysiek @vantiss
                            For the record, I'm the guy who pointed her to @kopper 's report.
                            (no hard feelings about stolen credit)
                            vantiss@social.treehouse.systemsV This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @moses_izumi @rysiek
                            huh? he was referring to my link to the 2017 repo, not the stuff from kopper

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                            • vantiss@social.treehouse.systemsV vantiss@social.treehouse.systems

                              @moses_izumi @rysiek
                              huh? he was referring to my link to the 2017 repo, not the stuff from kopper

                              moses_izumi@fe.disroot.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @vantiss @rysiek
                              ehh.
                              microsoft's malfeasace is bigger than any of us.
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                              • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                Also go see what @vantiss has to say about it:
                                https://social.treehouse.systems/@vantiss/116336811478744261

                                Credit where credit's due, I relied on her research on the earliest known instance of LinkedIn using this technique.

                                If you want to boost something, go boost her toot!

                                #BrowserGate #Chrome #Privacy

                                rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                And thank you to @martijn_grooten for some additional input as well!

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                                • schnittchen@tech.lgbtS schnittchen@tech.lgbt

                                  @rysiek why ffs is this even possible?

                                  rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @schnittchen right?!

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                                  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                    There is a fresh thing going around about LinkedIn scanning extensions installed in Chrome/Chromium:
                                    https://browsergate.eu/

                                    The website claims "LinkedIn is Illegally Searching Your Computer", and implies the purpose is to find "religious beliefs, political opinions, disabilities".

                                    tl;dr:
                                    - yes, LinkedIn is scanning through a list of 6k+ extensions on Chrome;
                                    - yes, this is bad;
                                    - but the website is disingenuous in making unnecessarily overblown claims.

                                    🧵

                                    #LinkedIn #BrowserGate #Privacy

                                    doomstrike@metalhead.clubD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @rysiek
                                    The browsergate site is odd.

                                    Fairlinked - Allianz für digitale Fairness e.V that seem to be behind it seem to be some sort of training org made up of folks all with datacentre industry backgrounds, AWS etc.
                                    A few red flags for me in this story

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                                    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                      And thank you to @martijn_grooten for some additional input as well!

                                      smallcircles@social.coopS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @rysiek

                                      It is good and heartening to see nuanced reflections like these. Thank you, Rysiek!

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                                      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                        Is this bad? Yes. It could allow fingerprinting users, and a specific set of installed extensions (say, a lot related to particular religion) could be revealing, and arguably is illegal based on GDPR.

                                        Is this "Searching Your Computer"? No, this is not what we generally think of when "searching your computer" is mentioned. This framing is way overblown and unnecessary.

                                        BrowserGate site also implies LI's purpose might be to gather this kind of protected data. I don't think this is warranted.

                                        🧵

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                                        @rysiek Thank you, I was wondering about a potentially-unlawful-under-GDPR aspect to this. Much obliged.

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                                        • clickhere@mastodon.ieC clickhere@mastodon.ie

                                          @rysiek Thank you, I was wondering about a potentially-unlawful-under-GDPR aspect to this. Much obliged.

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                                          @clickhere Article 9, the first point:
                                          https://gdpr-info.eu/art-9-gdpr/

                                          > Processing of personal data revealing racial or ethnic origin, political opinions, religious or philosophical beliefs, or trade union membership, and the processing of genetic data, biometric data for the purpose of uniquely identifying a natural person, data concerning health or data concerning a natural person’s sex life or sexual orientation shall be prohibited.

                                          IANAL, I am not saying 100% illegal, but an argument can be made…

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