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There is a fresh thing going around about LinkedIn scanning extensions installed in Chrome/Chromium:https://browsergate.eu/

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  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

    LinkedIn loads a lot of JS. In that JS there is a list of over 6.000 extensions, identified by their ids and with a single file path provided.

    The JS then checks if it is running in Chrome or a Chromium-based browser, and cycles through that list, checking if these extensions are installed by doing a fetch() to "chrome-extension://<extension_id>/<file_path>".

    If the fetch() succeeds, the extension is installed. If not, it isn't.

    🧵

    rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #6

    Is this bad? Yes. It could allow fingerprinting users, and a specific set of installed extensions (say, a lot related to particular religion) could be revealing, and arguably is illegal based on GDPR.

    Is this "Searching Your Computer"? No, this is not what we generally think of when "searching your computer" is mentioned. This framing is way overblown and unnecessary.

    BrowserGate site also implies LI's purpose might be to gather this kind of protected data. I don't think this is warranted.

    🧵

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    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

      Is this bad? Yes. It could allow fingerprinting users, and a specific set of installed extensions (say, a lot related to particular religion) could be revealing, and arguably is illegal based on GDPR.

      Is this "Searching Your Computer"? No, this is not what we generally think of when "searching your computer" is mentioned. This framing is way overblown and unnecessary.

      BrowserGate site also implies LI's purpose might be to gather this kind of protected data. I don't think this is warranted.

      🧵

      rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      BrowserGate site quotes a "sworn affidavit from LinkedIn’s Senior Engineering Manager":

      > “LinkedIn has invested in extension detection mechanisms without which LinkedIn would not have been able to trace the cause of service impacts and outages.”

      I don't trust Big Tech, but this is not an unreasonable explanation – although importantly, it is not a *justification* for this scanning.

      In other words: LI should not be doing that. But they might not be after your religion or orientation here.

      🧵

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      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

        Is this bad? Yes. It could allow fingerprinting users, and a specific set of installed extensions (say, a lot related to particular religion) could be revealing, and arguably is illegal based on GDPR.

        Is this "Searching Your Computer"? No, this is not what we generally think of when "searching your computer" is mentioned. This framing is way overblown and unnecessary.

        BrowserGate site also implies LI's purpose might be to gather this kind of protected data. I don't think this is warranted.

        🧵

        jrp@hub.kliklak.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8
        @Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 Can you explain "BrowserGate" to me. Sorry, not a professional here. Thank you!
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        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

          BrowserGate site quotes a "sworn affidavit from LinkedIn’s Senior Engineering Manager":

          > “LinkedIn has invested in extension detection mechanisms without which LinkedIn would not have been able to trace the cause of service impacts and outages.”

          I don't trust Big Tech, but this is not an unreasonable explanation – although importantly, it is not a *justification* for this scanning.

          In other words: LI should not be doing that. But they might not be after your religion or orientation here.

          🧵

          rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          The explanation might be reasonable, because extensions do affect how websites work, sometimes negatively, and the list of extensions here seems to contain mostly extensions specifically interfacing with LinkedIn.

          But here's my point: this kind of scanning is an overkill. And that alone is already bad enough and infuriating.

          There is no need to make overblown, click-baity claims like BrowserGate site does. That just muddies the waters ("wait, how are they scanning my computer?!").

          🧵

          dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD rysiek@mstdn.socialR 2 Replies Last reply
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          • jrp@hub.kliklak.netJ jrp@hub.kliklak.net
            @Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 Can you explain "BrowserGate" to me. Sorry, not a professional here. Thank you!
            rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            @jrp literally the only link in this thread, literally in the first toot of the thread.

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            • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

              @jrp literally the only link in this thread, literally in the first toot of the thread.

              jrp@hub.kliklak.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              @Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 Wheps 😉
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              • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                The explanation might be reasonable, because extensions do affect how websites work, sometimes negatively, and the list of extensions here seems to contain mostly extensions specifically interfacing with LinkedIn.

                But here's my point: this kind of scanning is an overkill. And that alone is already bad enough and infuriating.

                There is no need to make overblown, click-baity claims like BrowserGate site does. That just muddies the waters ("wait, how are they scanning my computer?!").

                🧵

                dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @rysiek
                > The explanation might be reasonable, because extensions do affect how websites work, sometimes negatively, and the list of extensions here seems to contain mostly extensions specifically interfacing with LinkedIn.

                I'm on the fence between calling BS because HTTP 4xx codes exist, and just shrugging saying “JavaScript”.

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                • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                  The explanation might be reasonable, because extensions do affect how websites work, sometimes negatively, and the list of extensions here seems to contain mostly extensions specifically interfacing with LinkedIn.

                  But here's my point: this kind of scanning is an overkill. And that alone is already bad enough and infuriating.

                  There is no need to make overblown, click-baity claims like BrowserGate site does. That just muddies the waters ("wait, how are they scanning my computer?!").

                  🧵

                  rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #13

                  I was not aware of the technique the scanning employs, but apparently it's a known issue on Chrome and Chromium-based browsers, and has been for years:
                  https://browserleaks.com/chrome

                  LinkedIn itself has been using it since 2017:
                  https://github.com/dandrews/nefarious-linkedin

                  And I am sure it is used by a lot of shady sites to fingerprint users and actually figure out protected information about them. It can absolutely be used that way, and Google needs to plug this huge privacy hole.

                  🧵/end

                  #Chrome #BrowserGate #Privacy

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                  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                    There is a fresh thing going around about LinkedIn scanning extensions installed in Chrome/Chromium:
                    https://browsergate.eu/

                    The website claims "LinkedIn is Illegally Searching Your Computer", and implies the purpose is to find "religious beliefs, political opinions, disabilities".

                    tl;dr:
                    - yes, LinkedIn is scanning through a list of 6k+ extensions on Chrome;
                    - yes, this is bad;
                    - but the website is disingenuous in making unnecessarily overblown claims.

                    🧵

                    #LinkedIn #BrowserGate #Privacy

                    laukidh@infosec.exchangeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @rysiek they think “browsergate” is going to stick for one site scanning extensions?

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                    • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

                      @rysiek
                      > The explanation might be reasonable, because extensions do affect how websites work, sometimes negatively, and the list of extensions here seems to contain mostly extensions specifically interfacing with LinkedIn.

                      I'm on the fence between calling BS because HTTP 4xx codes exist, and just shrugging saying “JavaScript”.

                      rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #15

                      @dzwiedziu the explanation is reasonable in the sense of "I cans ee how somebody thought this is a solution to this problem".

                      I said before this does not justify this level of scanning though.

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                      • laukidh@infosec.exchangeL laukidh@infosec.exchange

                        @rysiek they think “browsergate” is going to stick for one site scanning extensions?

                        rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #16

                        @Laukidh yeah, also had that thought

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                        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                          There is a fresh thing going around about LinkedIn scanning extensions installed in Chrome/Chromium:
                          https://browsergate.eu/

                          The website claims "LinkedIn is Illegally Searching Your Computer", and implies the purpose is to find "religious beliefs, political opinions, disabilities".

                          tl;dr:
                          - yes, LinkedIn is scanning through a list of 6k+ extensions on Chrome;
                          - yes, this is bad;
                          - but the website is disingenuous in making unnecessarily overblown claims.

                          🧵

                          #LinkedIn #BrowserGate #Privacy

                          skylark13@mastodon.gamedev.placeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #17

                          @rysiek Thanks for this analysis. I saw the BrowserGate thing earlier and it seemed bad but also way overblown, but I was not sure if I was missing something.

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                          • jrp@hub.kliklak.netJ jrp@hub.kliklak.net
                            @Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 Wheps 😉
                            rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #18

                            @jrp

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                            • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                              I was not aware of the technique the scanning employs, but apparently it's a known issue on Chrome and Chromium-based browsers, and has been for years:
                              https://browserleaks.com/chrome

                              LinkedIn itself has been using it since 2017:
                              https://github.com/dandrews/nefarious-linkedin

                              And I am sure it is used by a lot of shady sites to fingerprint users and actually figure out protected information about them. It can absolutely be used that way, and Google needs to plug this huge privacy hole.

                              🧵/end

                              #Chrome #BrowserGate #Privacy

                              rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Also go see what @vantiss has to say about it:
                              https://social.treehouse.systems/@vantiss/116336811478744261

                              Credit where credit's due, I relied on her research on the earliest known instance of LinkedIn using this technique.

                              If you want to boost something, go boost her toot!

                              #BrowserGate #Chrome #Privacy

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                              • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                LinkedIn loads a lot of JS. In that JS there is a list of over 6.000 extensions, identified by their ids and with a single file path provided.

                                The JS then checks if it is running in Chrome or a Chromium-based browser, and cycles through that list, checking if these extensions are installed by doing a fetch() to "chrome-extension://<extension_id>/<file_path>".

                                If the fetch() succeeds, the extension is installed. If not, it isn't.

                                🧵

                                orca@nya.oneO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @rysiek@mstdn.social wtf why does Chrome allows an untrusted website to do that???
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                                • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                  LinkedIn loads a lot of JS. In that JS there is a list of over 6.000 extensions, identified by their ids and with a single file path provided.

                                  The JS then checks if it is running in Chrome or a Chromium-based browser, and cycles through that list, checking if these extensions are installed by doing a fetch() to "chrome-extension://<extension_id>/<file_path>".

                                  If the fetch() succeeds, the extension is installed. If not, it isn't.

                                  🧵

                                  schnittchen@tech.lgbtS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @rysiek why ffs is this even possible?

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                                  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                    Also go see what @vantiss has to say about it:
                                    https://social.treehouse.systems/@vantiss/116336811478744261

                                    Credit where credit's due, I relied on her research on the earliest known instance of LinkedIn using this technique.

                                    If you want to boost something, go boost her toot!

                                    #BrowserGate #Chrome #Privacy

                                    moses_izumi@fe.disroot.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #22
                                    @rysiek @vantiss
                                    For the record, I'm the guy who pointed her to @kopper 's report.
                                    (no hard feelings about stolen credit)
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                                    • moses_izumi@fe.disroot.orgM moses_izumi@fe.disroot.org
                                      @rysiek @vantiss
                                      For the record, I'm the guy who pointed her to @kopper 's report.
                                      (no hard feelings about stolen credit)
                                      vantiss@social.treehouse.systemsV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @moses_izumi @rysiek
                                      huh? he was referring to my link to the 2017 repo, not the stuff from kopper

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                                      • vantiss@social.treehouse.systemsV vantiss@social.treehouse.systems

                                        @moses_izumi @rysiek
                                        huh? he was referring to my link to the 2017 repo, not the stuff from kopper

                                        moses_izumi@fe.disroot.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #24
                                        @vantiss @rysiek
                                        ehh.
                                        microsoft's malfeasace is bigger than any of us.
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                                        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                          Also go see what @vantiss has to say about it:
                                          https://social.treehouse.systems/@vantiss/116336811478744261

                                          Credit where credit's due, I relied on her research on the earliest known instance of LinkedIn using this technique.

                                          If you want to boost something, go boost her toot!

                                          #BrowserGate #Chrome #Privacy

                                          rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #25

                                          And thank you to @martijn_grooten for some additional input as well!

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