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This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

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  • hacknorris@mstdn.socialH hacknorris@mstdn.social

    @wojtek @kde yeah. possibly only a pack of 10 guys over irc. i doubt more…

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    @hacknorris @kde just found this lovely comparison… "it ain't that bad" it seems? 😉

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    • wojtek@social.vivaldi.netW wojtek@social.vivaldi.net

      @hacknorris @kde just found this lovely comparison… "it ain't that bad" it seems? 😉

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      @wojtek wai-
      THAT'S FROM PROTON???

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      • n8chz@hachyderm.ioN n8chz@hachyderm.io

        @kde@floss.socia

        I know little of legal matters. One thing about the American situation for FLOSS, that I learned from @pluralistic but I forgot where I read it, is that open source projects have to be "educational" projects in order to qualify for status as non-profit organizations. I've long had the impression that US tax law is designed to aggressively prevent competition between the non-profit sector and the for-profit sector, and absolutely rule out competition between the public sector and the private sector.

        @tdforg @gnome @Blender @fedora @Krita @kdenlive @videolan @fsfe

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        #37

        @n8chz @pluralistic @tdforg @gnome @Blender @fedora @krita @kdenlive @videolan @fsfe I'm not aware of any legal status of "volunteering" in the United States; in almost all cases services/labor cannot be donated.

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        • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

          This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

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          Recognition of Work on Open-Source as Volunteering in Germany - Online-Petition

          Open-Source-Software builds the foundations of digital infrastructure in big parts - in administration, economy, science and daily life. Even the current coalition agreement of the Federal Government mentions Open-Source-Software as a fundamental building block for the achievement of digital sovereignty. However, the work done by thousands of volunteers for this goal is not recognised as volunteering, neither fiscally nor in terms of funding. This imbalance between societal importance and legal

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          openPetition (www.openpetition.de)

          This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

          If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

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          Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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          @kde Oh, this is really cool!

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          • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

            This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

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            Recognition of Work on Open-Source as Volunteering in Germany - Online-Petition

            Open-Source-Software builds the foundations of digital infrastructure in big parts - in administration, economy, science and daily life. Even the current coalition agreement of the Federal Government mentions Open-Source-Software as a fundamental building block for the achievement of digital sovereignty. However, the work done by thousands of volunteers for this goal is not recognised as volunteering, neither fiscally nor in terms of funding. This imbalance between societal importance and legal

            favicon

            openPetition (www.openpetition.de)

            This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

            If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

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            Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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            moin@gruene.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #39

            @kde
            For some reason it doesnt like my mail adress...

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            • amberage@eldritch.cafeA amberage@eldritch.cafe

              @kde and where's the petition that actually has a chance of achieving anything?

              Where's the parliamentary e-petition?

              Because petitions on whatever platforms are pointless. Petitions filed with the Bundestag petition committee actually force the parliament to discuss them if they pass the threshold.

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              @amberage

              It made me wonder whether this "OpenPetition" wasn't some shady data collection endeavour.

              What is the point in collecting home addresses, if this is an unofficial petition with no public entity confirming addresses?

              Why can only German citizens participate?

              For official petitions to the Federal Parliament (also quorum 30K persons), neither citizenship nor residence within the country is required.

              It all seems to be a great idea, but the platform makes me suspicious.

              @kde

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              • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

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                Recognition of Work on Open-Source as Volunteering in Germany - Online-Petition

                Open-Source-Software builds the foundations of digital infrastructure in big parts - in administration, economy, science and daily life. Even the current coalition agreement of the Federal Government mentions Open-Source-Software as a fundamental building block for the achievement of digital sovereignty. However, the work done by thousands of volunteers for this goal is not recognised as volunteering, neither fiscally nor in terms of funding. This imbalance between societal importance and legal

                favicon

                openPetition (www.openpetition.de)

                This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

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                Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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                #41

                @kde It's just nice to see three young people looking so happy about anything to do with free software.

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                • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

                  @amberage

                  It made me wonder whether this "OpenPetition" wasn't some shady data collection endeavour.

                  What is the point in collecting home addresses, if this is an unofficial petition with no public entity confirming addresses?

                  Why can only German citizens participate?

                  For official petitions to the Federal Parliament (also quorum 30K persons), neither citizenship nor residence within the country is required.

                  It all seems to be a great idea, but the platform makes me suspicious.

                  @kde

                  julele@outmo.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @mina
                  It is not understandable for me why petitions like this don't use the parliament e-partition.
                  @amberage @kde
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                  • stiller_leser@mastodon.socialS stiller_leser@mastodon.social

                    @kde It really seems worth supporting, not sure why it would need my home adress though...

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                    #43

                    @stiller_leser @kde According to https://www.bundestag.de/ausschuesse/a02_Petitionsausschuss/verfahrensgrundsaetze-1075826 it's required when addressing the German national parliament for a petition electronically, that's of course not a proof you really support the cause, but they can do some plausibility checks.

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                    • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                      This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

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                      Recognition of Work on Open-Source as Volunteering in Germany - Online-Petition

                      Open-Source-Software builds the foundations of digital infrastructure in big parts - in administration, economy, science and daily life. Even the current coalition agreement of the Federal Government mentions Open-Source-Software as a fundamental building block for the achievement of digital sovereignty. However, the work done by thousands of volunteers for this goal is not recognised as volunteering, neither fiscally nor in terms of funding. This imbalance between societal importance and legal

                      favicon

                      openPetition (www.openpetition.de)

                      This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                      If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

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                      Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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                      endolexi@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #44

                      @kde does the current text kind of imply that all open source software is of public benefit? I'm missing a qualifier here maybe - there can be shitty open source software made with shitty intentions, and I wouldn't like to see that included.

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                      • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                        This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

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                        Recognition of Work on Open-Source as Volunteering in Germany - Online-Petition

                        Open-Source-Software builds the foundations of digital infrastructure in big parts - in administration, economy, science and daily life. Even the current coalition agreement of the Federal Government mentions Open-Source-Software as a fundamental building block for the achievement of digital sovereignty. However, the work done by thousands of volunteers for this goal is not recognised as volunteering, neither fiscally nor in terms of funding. This imbalance between societal importance and legal

                        favicon

                        openPetition (www.openpetition.de)

                        This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                        If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

                        ---

                        Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

                        Link Preview Image
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                        #45

                        @kde FYI, copyright of this image is @fsfe, original source here: https://fsfe.org/activities/ilovefs/whylovefs/gallery.html

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