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  3. This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

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  • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

    This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

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    Recognition of Work on Open-Source as Volunteering in Germany - Online-Petition

    Open-Source-Software builds the foundations of digital infrastructure in big parts - in administration, economy, science and daily life. Even the current coalition agreement of the Federal Government mentions Open-Source-Software as a fundamental building block for the achievement of digital sovereignty. However, the work done by thousands of volunteers for this goal is not recognised as volunteering, neither fiscally nor in terms of funding. This imbalance between societal importance and legal

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    openPetition (www.openpetition.de)

    This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

    If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

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    Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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    keyboardpipette@genomic.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #31

    @kde can legal residents sign it as well, or only citizens?

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    • hacknorris@mstdn.socialH hacknorris@mstdn.social

      @kde nope i don't. in my country they care mostly about using american tech (gafam), and where funding OSS (not saying about FLOSS)…

      wojtek@social.vivaldi.netW This user is from outside of this forum
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      wojtek@social.vivaldi.net
      wrote last edited by
      #32

      @hacknorris @kde just because the government is shitty doesn't mean there aren't grassroots initiatives to push FOSS usage…

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      • wojtek@social.vivaldi.netW wojtek@social.vivaldi.net

        @hacknorris @kde just because the government is shitty doesn't mean there aren't grassroots initiatives to push FOSS usage…

        hacknorris@mstdn.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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        hacknorris@mstdn.social
        wrote last edited by
        #33

        @wojtek @kde yeah. possibly only a pack of 10 guys over irc. i doubt more…

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        • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

          This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

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          Recognition of Work on Open-Source as Volunteering in Germany - Online-Petition

          Open-Source-Software builds the foundations of digital infrastructure in big parts - in administration, economy, science and daily life. Even the current coalition agreement of the Federal Government mentions Open-Source-Software as a fundamental building block for the achievement of digital sovereignty. However, the work done by thousands of volunteers for this goal is not recognised as volunteering, neither fiscally nor in terms of funding. This imbalance between societal importance and legal

          favicon

          openPetition (www.openpetition.de)

          This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

          If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

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          Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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          stiller_leser@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          stiller_leser@mastodon.social
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          #34

          @kde It really seems worth supporting, not sure why it would need my home adress though...

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          • hacknorris@mstdn.socialH hacknorris@mstdn.social

            @wojtek @kde yeah. possibly only a pack of 10 guys over irc. i doubt more…

            wojtek@social.vivaldi.netW This user is from outside of this forum
            wojtek@social.vivaldi.netW This user is from outside of this forum
            wojtek@social.vivaldi.net
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            #35

            @hacknorris @kde just found this lovely comparison… "it ain't that bad" it seems? 😉

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            • wojtek@social.vivaldi.netW wojtek@social.vivaldi.net

              @hacknorris @kde just found this lovely comparison… "it ain't that bad" it seems? 😉

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              #36

              @wojtek wai-
              THAT'S FROM PROTON???

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              • n8chz@hachyderm.ioN n8chz@hachyderm.io

                @kde@floss.socia

                I know little of legal matters. One thing about the American situation for FLOSS, that I learned from @pluralistic but I forgot where I read it, is that open source projects have to be "educational" projects in order to qualify for status as non-profit organizations. I've long had the impression that US tax law is designed to aggressively prevent competition between the non-profit sector and the for-profit sector, and absolutely rule out competition between the public sector and the private sector.

                @tdforg @gnome @Blender @fedora @Krita @kdenlive @videolan @fsfe

                whitemice@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                #37

                @n8chz @pluralistic @tdforg @gnome @Blender @fedora @krita @kdenlive @videolan @fsfe I'm not aware of any legal status of "volunteering" in the United States; in almost all cases services/labor cannot be donated.

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                • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                  This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

                  Link Preview Image
                  Recognition of Work on Open-Source as Volunteering in Germany - Online-Petition

                  Open-Source-Software builds the foundations of digital infrastructure in big parts - in administration, economy, science and daily life. Even the current coalition agreement of the Federal Government mentions Open-Source-Software as a fundamental building block for the achievement of digital sovereignty. However, the work done by thousands of volunteers for this goal is not recognised as volunteering, neither fiscally nor in terms of funding. This imbalance between societal importance and legal

                  favicon

                  openPetition (www.openpetition.de)

                  This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                  If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

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                  Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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                  jessebot@social.smallhack.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #38

                  @kde Oh, this is really cool!

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                  • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                    This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

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                    Recognition of Work on Open-Source as Volunteering in Germany - Online-Petition

                    Open-Source-Software builds the foundations of digital infrastructure in big parts - in administration, economy, science and daily life. Even the current coalition agreement of the Federal Government mentions Open-Source-Software as a fundamental building block for the achievement of digital sovereignty. However, the work done by thousands of volunteers for this goal is not recognised as volunteering, neither fiscally nor in terms of funding. This imbalance between societal importance and legal

                    favicon

                    openPetition (www.openpetition.de)

                    This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                    If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

                    ---

                    Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

                    Link Preview Image
                    moin@gruene.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                    moin@gruene.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                    moin@gruene.social
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                    #39

                    @kde
                    For some reason it doesnt like my mail adress...

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                    • amberage@eldritch.cafeA amberage@eldritch.cafe

                      @kde and where's the petition that actually has a chance of achieving anything?

                      Where's the parliamentary e-petition?

                      Because petitions on whatever platforms are pointless. Petitions filed with the Bundestag petition committee actually force the parliament to discuss them if they pass the threshold.

                      mina@berlin.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      mina@berlin.social
                      wrote last edited by
                      #40

                      @amberage

                      It made me wonder whether this "OpenPetition" wasn't some shady data collection endeavour.

                      What is the point in collecting home addresses, if this is an unofficial petition with no public entity confirming addresses?

                      Why can only German citizens participate?

                      For official petitions to the Federal Parliament (also quorum 30K persons), neither citizenship nor residence within the country is required.

                      It all seems to be a great idea, but the platform makes me suspicious.

                      @kde

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                      • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                        This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

                        Link Preview Image
                        Recognition of Work on Open-Source as Volunteering in Germany - Online-Petition

                        Open-Source-Software builds the foundations of digital infrastructure in big parts - in administration, economy, science and daily life. Even the current coalition agreement of the Federal Government mentions Open-Source-Software as a fundamental building block for the achievement of digital sovereignty. However, the work done by thousands of volunteers for this goal is not recognised as volunteering, neither fiscally nor in terms of funding. This imbalance between societal importance and legal

                        favicon

                        openPetition (www.openpetition.de)

                        This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                        If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

                        ---

                        Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

                        Link Preview Image
                        amenonsen@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        amenonsen@mastodon.social
                        wrote last edited by
                        #41

                        @kde It's just nice to see three young people looking so happy about anything to do with free software.

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                        • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

                          @amberage

                          It made me wonder whether this "OpenPetition" wasn't some shady data collection endeavour.

                          What is the point in collecting home addresses, if this is an unofficial petition with no public entity confirming addresses?

                          Why can only German citizens participate?

                          For official petitions to the Federal Parliament (also quorum 30K persons), neither citizenship nor residence within the country is required.

                          It all seems to be a great idea, but the platform makes me suspicious.

                          @kde

                          julele@outmo.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          julele@outmo.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          julele@outmo.de
                          wrote last edited by
                          #42
                          @mina
                          It is not understandable for me why petitions like this don't use the parliament e-partition.
                          @amberage @kde
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                          • stiller_leser@mastodon.socialS stiller_leser@mastodon.social

                            @kde It really seems worth supporting, not sure why it would need my home adress though...

                            benedikt@ruhr.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #43

                            @stiller_leser @kde According to https://www.bundestag.de/ausschuesse/a02_Petitionsausschuss/verfahrensgrundsaetze-1075826 it's required when addressing the German national parliament for a petition electronically, that's of course not a proof you really support the cause, but they can do some plausibility checks.

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                            • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                              This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

                              Link Preview Image
                              Recognition of Work on Open-Source as Volunteering in Germany - Online-Petition

                              Open-Source-Software builds the foundations of digital infrastructure in big parts - in administration, economy, science and daily life. Even the current coalition agreement of the Federal Government mentions Open-Source-Software as a fundamental building block for the achievement of digital sovereignty. However, the work done by thousands of volunteers for this goal is not recognised as volunteering, neither fiscally nor in terms of funding. This imbalance between societal importance and legal

                              favicon

                              openPetition (www.openpetition.de)

                              This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                              If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

                              ---

                              Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

                              Link Preview Image
                              endolexi@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote last edited by
                              #44

                              @kde does the current text kind of imply that all open source software is of public benefit? I'm missing a qualifier here maybe - there can be shitty open source software made with shitty intentions, and I wouldn't like to see that included.

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                              • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                                This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

                                Link Preview Image
                                Recognition of Work on Open-Source as Volunteering in Germany - Online-Petition

                                Open-Source-Software builds the foundations of digital infrastructure in big parts - in administration, economy, science and daily life. Even the current coalition agreement of the Federal Government mentions Open-Source-Software as a fundamental building block for the achievement of digital sovereignty. However, the work done by thousands of volunteers for this goal is not recognised as volunteering, neither fiscally nor in terms of funding. This imbalance between societal importance and legal

                                favicon

                                openPetition (www.openpetition.de)

                                This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                                If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

                                ---

                                Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

                                Link Preview Image
                                mxmehl@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                mxmehl@mastodon.social
                                wrote last edited by
                                #45

                                @kde FYI, copyright of this image is @fsfe, original source here: https://fsfe.org/activities/ilovefs/whylovefs/gallery.html

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