Love how "elitist" now just means "has the audacity to know things."
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@nicolai Apart from a severeintellectual disability, what can block someone access to certain methods of thinking in year 2026?
@Oytis even for people without any learning disabilities they are not easy to master and someone needs to be willing to invest many many hours into teaching them to you. It takes years.
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@Daojoan It's not elitist to go to university. It's elitist to believe the only way you can prove you are smart or educated is to give tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars for a piece of paper with your name on it. Our entire labor market and social culture is based on that notion. And like, I think the viewing of Trump as a man of the people is dumb, too...but this post is dangerously close to equating poor with dumb. And I think that's probably what people are referring to.
@smutmag @Daojoan Interesting angle re: money.
Wondering whether the US academic system has sth to do with the view of them being elitist. You need money to become educated.Here in Germany, college and university are free (though there are class threshholds obv).
We still have a right wing movement against intellectuals (which, btw, I do think is orchestrated by Putin et al.).
It seems to be stronger in the USA though.
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@smutmag @Daojoan Interesting angle re: money.
Wondering whether the US academic system has sth to do with the view of them being elitist. You need money to become educated.Here in Germany, college and university are free (though there are class threshholds obv).
We still have a right wing movement against intellectuals (which, btw, I do think is orchestrated by Putin et al.).
It seems to be stronger in the USA though.
Maybe because there *is* a connection between education and privilege?@megaphon @Daojoan I do want to be clear: The MAGA movement (and republicans in general) here is totally, 100% anti-intellectual. And their hatred of college is part of it. But I'm definitely speaking to why people here might gravitate towards the anti-intellectualism. Their latching onto a true problem--that there is a big class divide that favors people who went to college. And that, yes, it's basically extrotion: Pay 10's to 100's of thousands of dollars, or be poor.
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@megaphon @Daojoan I do want to be clear: The MAGA movement (and republicans in general) here is totally, 100% anti-intellectual. And their hatred of college is part of it. But I'm definitely speaking to why people here might gravitate towards the anti-intellectualism. Their latching onto a true problem--that there is a big class divide that favors people who went to college. And that, yes, it's basically extrotion: Pay 10's to 100's of thousands of dollars, or be poor.
@megaphon @Daojoan From my own experience in college, I found quite a lot of the requirements entirely arbitrary, and found the system to be a scam. I'm the fool that dropped out my senior year--because college was honestly easier than my fairly tough high school, and I couldn't shake the feeling that it was a scam.
But the scam aspect would be eradicated if it were free.
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Love how "elitist" now just means "has the audacity to know things." Went to university? Elitist. Read a book? Elitist. Can point to a country on a map? Elitist. Meanwhile a man with a gold toilet is a man of the people.
@Daojoan Proud, but poor, elitist. Educated, artistic, etc. I wish to own the word. Sure is better than being an uneducated dipshit.
Petty fascist wankers can jump off a pier.
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@ariaflame There's actual royalty from major countries that are more connected to people's daily lives.
@Halaana @ariaflame Actually, as a Spanish subject, they're not.
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@theothersimo @Daojoan I don't think it was her intent. But I do think equating going to college with knowing things perpetuates a class divide and permeates the culture with an idea that poor people, or people who can't leave home, or need to work full time are stupid. I went to college. Plenty of idiots who never learned anything or had one moment of critical thinking graduated. And yet it's the way we assess who is worthy of a job that requires thinking. I'm happy to point it out.
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@theothersimo @Daojoan Yeah, but going to college is the only thing in the list that gets you more money, and the only thing that costs a year's salary per year to pay for. That's why people think it's elitist, and that's why it's the one I focused on. It's the one you and I might think signifies different things.
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@Halaana @ariaflame Actually, as a Spanish subject, they're not.
@peluchecero @Halaana How does being a spanish subject provide insight into royalty around the world?
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@peluchecero @Halaana How does being a spanish subject provide insight into royalty around the world?
@ariaflame @Halaana Outside Europe, I don't know. But all European royalty are cousins to some degree and we get tons of news about Willem and Máxima, Frederick and Mary etc etc. None of them, starting by our very own Felipe and Letizia, seems too connected with real life.
