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  • mayintoronto@beige.partyM mayintoronto@beige.party

    Time to back up, export, and leave if you're on mstdn.ca
    https://ottawa.place/@stephanie/116267088513251309

    If you can't see the above post, here's the CBC article about the person who owns and runs the server.
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/inglewood-league-lawsuit-missing-funds-9.7136933

    Migration tips:
    https://zeroes.ca/@StaceyCornelius/115967726861839689

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    @mayintoronto

    I hate to be "That Guy" but I would remind everyone that these are allegations in the form of a statement of claim, not a finding of fact in a court of law.

    As far as I'm aware we do have a presumption of innocence in Canada.

    Obviously the allegation is disturbing, but I will withhold my condemnation and won't be moving instances until such time as a finding of fact is made (or at least until we see some evidence to back up the claims).

    As for "he's hosting it at home" as some kind of evidence of malice, there was a deliberate and public effort to get mstdn.ca off of "the cloud" and onto Canadian sovereign servers, so I feel like this is slandering someone with their good intentions.

    I note, this is not a defence of his alleged actions, merely a reminder of our professed values.

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    • evdelen@mstdn.caE evdelen@mstdn.ca

      @mayintoronto

      I hate to be "That Guy" but I would remind everyone that these are allegations in the form of a statement of claim, not a finding of fact in a court of law.

      As far as I'm aware we do have a presumption of innocence in Canada.

      Obviously the allegation is disturbing, but I will withhold my condemnation and won't be moving instances until such time as a finding of fact is made (or at least until we see some evidence to back up the claims).

      As for "he's hosting it at home" as some kind of evidence of malice, there was a deliberate and public effort to get mstdn.ca off of "the cloud" and onto Canadian sovereign servers, so I feel like this is slandering someone with their good intentions.

      I note, this is not a defence of his alleged actions, merely a reminder of our professed values.

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      @evdelen @mayintoronto Agreed. This is concerning, but allegations are just allegations.

      This is a bit of a shock none the less though, and does give me concern about my data hosted on the servers though. 😬

      Sometimes being "that guy" is not fun to be, I've done that a few times on here and been blocked for it, oh well! 🙃

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      • the5thcolumnist@mstdn.caT the5thcolumnist@mstdn.ca

        @mayintoronto

        Going to be an interesting State of The Instance today for mstdn.ca members

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        @the5thColumnist @mayintoronto

        My email said Sunday.

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        • javensbukan@mstdn.caJ javensbukan@mstdn.ca

          @evdelen @mayintoronto Agreed. This is concerning, but allegations are just allegations.

          This is a bit of a shock none the less though, and does give me concern about my data hosted on the servers though. 😬

          Sometimes being "that guy" is not fun to be, I've done that a few times on here and been blocked for it, oh well! 🙃

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          @javensbukan @mayintoronto

          Completely agree.

          I'm hopeful this is a misunderstanding, or a mistake, not a malice driven endeavour.

          I'll definitely be keeping an eye on the matter!

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          • evdelen@mstdn.caE evdelen@mstdn.ca

            @javensbukan @mayintoronto

            Completely agree.

            I'm hopeful this is a misunderstanding, or a mistake, not a malice driven endeavour.

            I'll definitely be keeping an eye on the matter!

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            @evdelen @mayintoronto Yeah. It will be interesting to see the details of this case once it comes to light.

            I do not understand why an organization would try to reputationally destroy Chad like this though - what's the motive? 🤨

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            • javensbukan@mstdn.caJ javensbukan@mstdn.ca

              @evdelen @mayintoronto Yeah. It will be interesting to see the details of this case once it comes to light.

              I do not understand why an organization would try to reputationally destroy Chad like this though - what's the motive? 🤨

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              @javensbukan @evdelen idk, it's being reported through the CBC. In previous years, I'd say that CBC did their research, but it's so hard to trust them anymore.

              I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt, but allegations like that? I'd be inclined to leave.

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              • angela_underscore@mstdn.caA angela_underscore@mstdn.ca

                @the5thColumnist @mayintoronto

                My email said Sunday.

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                @angela_underscore @mayintoronto

                OOPS , so it did

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                • the5thcolumnist@mstdn.caT the5thcolumnist@mstdn.ca

                  @angela_underscore @mayintoronto

                  OOPS , so it did

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                  @the5thColumnist @mayintoronto

                  I was wondering if there were two meetings.

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                  • angela_underscore@mstdn.caA angela_underscore@mstdn.ca

                    @the5thColumnist @mayintoronto

                    I was wondering if there were two meetings.

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                    @angela_underscore @mayintoronto

                    no I was just daft

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                    • mayintoronto@beige.partyM mayintoronto@beige.party

                      @javensbukan @evdelen idk, it's being reported through the CBC. In previous years, I'd say that CBC did their research, but it's so hard to trust them anymore.

                      I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt, but allegations like that? I'd be inclined to leave.

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                      @mayintoronto @javensbukan

                      It's on the CBC News site, yes, but it's a Court Docket Reporting piece, not a piece of investigative journalism.

                      A CBC reporter who's on the courts beat noticed an interesting case on the docket and reported it to the public.

                      Besides attempting to contact involved parties, and a successful contact of an unaffiliated third-party with broad level familiarity into the issue of Neighbourhood Leagues (Cllr. Tang), the author doesn't investigate the allegations or add any details, just "this group accuses that person of something".

                      In the days of old, this would have been called a Beat Article, they're purpose is to keep the public informed about the goings on within certain institutions, like the Courts, rather than, say, a breaking news investigative article.

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                      • mayintoronto@beige.partyM mayintoronto@beige.party

                        @javensbukan @evdelen idk, it's being reported through the CBC. In previous years, I'd say that CBC did their research, but it's so hard to trust them anymore.

                        I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt, but allegations like that? I'd be inclined to leave.

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                        @mayintoronto @javensbukan @evdelen for me it’s not about the allegations, the court can handle it.

                        But it’s important to know the largest fediverse instance in Canada is very centralized.

                        It’s not a separate non profit, all the servers are in his home and under his name (assets), he pays all the bills and collect donations under his name.

                        So to know that he’s being sued for 300K is important info. It’s all the same bucket. If he loses or have big lawyer fees, this is all the same entity.

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                        • jerome@jasette.facil.servicesJ jerome@jasette.facil.services

                          @mayintoronto @javensbukan @evdelen for me it’s not about the allegations, the court can handle it.

                          But it’s important to know the largest fediverse instance in Canada is very centralized.

                          It’s not a separate non profit, all the servers are in his home and under his name (assets), he pays all the bills and collect donations under his name.

                          So to know that he’s being sued for 300K is important info. It’s all the same bucket. If he loses or have big lawyer fees, this is all the same entity.

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                          @jerome @mayintoronto @javensbukan

                          You have a point there, and we have the good fortune of a forum being available to answer some of our questions / make some decisions around these issues, specifically the State of the Instance meet up tomorrow.

                          Personally, if there is a call for volunteers for replicating and distributing the infrastructure I believe I have the skills and resources to volunteer: a fibre connection, backup power, some of the technical skills...

                          And, institutionally, I agree that it might be time to have a discussion around setting up the mstdn.ca organization as a not-for-profit entity with a volunteer board and some of the safeguards I mentioned before, like 3 signature expenditures.

                          This is part of the evolution of such communities!

                          I look forward to the discussion tomorrow!

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                          • mayintoronto@beige.partyM mayintoronto@beige.party

                            Time to back up, export, and leave if you're on mstdn.ca
                            https://ottawa.place/@stephanie/116267088513251309

                            If you can't see the above post, here's the CBC article about the person who owns and runs the server.
                            https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/inglewood-league-lawsuit-missing-funds-9.7136933

                            Migration tips:
                            https://zeroes.ca/@StaceyCornelius/115967726861839689

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                            @mayintoronto That was not on my bingo card for 2026.

                            My account there is long gone (early August 2024), so I don’t have any effective position to take.

                            It just doesn’t look good reputationally for that instance. Not talking about the risks on that instance’s finances, being hosted on the admin’s personal property.

                            Best of luck to them.

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                            • mayintoronto@beige.partyM mayintoronto@beige.party

                              Time to back up, export, and leave if you're on mstdn.ca
                              https://ottawa.place/@stephanie/116267088513251309

                              If you can't see the above post, here's the CBC article about the person who owns and runs the server.
                              https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/inglewood-league-lawsuit-missing-funds-9.7136933

                              Migration tips:
                              https://zeroes.ca/@StaceyCornelius/115967726861839689

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                              @mayintoronto That was not on my bingo card for 2026.

                              My account there is long gone (early August 2024), so I don’t have any effective position to take.

                              Just glad I moved away when I did.

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @mayintoronto

                                holy shit

                                oh he's toast

                                his servers are toast

                                what a fuckhead

                                AND this asswipe is giving mastodon a bad name:

                                "Ohman had previously been interviewed by CBC News for his involvement in fundraising and the social media platform Mastodon. CBC News has not been able to reach him for comment on this story."

                                hey Chad Ohman: 🖕 🖕 🖕

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                                @benroyce @mayintoronto He called the cops on me & then lied about it all.
                                https://beige.party/@PhoenixSerenity/116268551857561967

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                                • phoenixserenity@beige.partyP phoenixserenity@beige.party

                                  @benroyce @mayintoronto He called the cops on me & then lied about it all.
                                  https://beige.party/@PhoenixSerenity/116268551857561967

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                                  @PhoenixSerenity @mayintoronto

                                  often times people who are feeling anxious about covering up a crime will lash out at others over perceived, not real, transgressions.

                                  that's horrible you went through that

                                  you must have been so confused as to why

                                  well, now you know

                                  it was projection

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                                    @PhoenixSerenity @mayintoronto

                                    often times people who are feeling anxious about covering up a crime will lash out at others over perceived, not real, transgressions.

                                    that's horrible you went through that

                                    you must have been so confused as to why

                                    well, now you know

                                    it was projection

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                                    @benroyce @mayintoronto I knew exactly why & that's why I was super enraged, afterwards. Almost everyone here knew how much I love/caregive/look after my family & almost everyone here felt heartbroken & angry over how my Dad & my family was treated on night Dad died. Almost everyone here knew I was a targeted longtime POC disabled woman activist & been arrested more than 100X. He sent cops to my house - knowing all of that. It wasn't private, it was public. It was white violence on our family. I don't forgive him or any white folks who chose to believe his lying scumbucket ass.

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                                    • evdelen@mstdn.caE evdelen@mstdn.ca

                                      @mayintoronto

                                      I hate to be "That Guy" but I would remind everyone that these are allegations in the form of a statement of claim, not a finding of fact in a court of law.

                                      As far as I'm aware we do have a presumption of innocence in Canada.

                                      Obviously the allegation is disturbing, but I will withhold my condemnation and won't be moving instances until such time as a finding of fact is made (or at least until we see some evidence to back up the claims).

                                      As for "he's hosting it at home" as some kind of evidence of malice, there was a deliberate and public effort to get mstdn.ca off of "the cloud" and onto Canadian sovereign servers, so I feel like this is slandering someone with their good intentions.

                                      I note, this is not a defence of his alleged actions, merely a reminder of our professed values.

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                                      @evdelen @mayintoronto

                                      Are you his jailor?

                                      I'm so tired of people pretending that "guilty in a court of law" is the only way we're allowed to have opinions about people's wrongdoing. Courts make findings about the guilt of someone in the eyes of the state justice system. I.e., the state and it's ability to imprison you is the ONLY entity that is bound to a court judgement.

                                      So I'll say it clearly, it doesn't matter that a court hasn't made a finding yet, yes you're still allowed to have an opinion about someone's behaviour and have consequences for that.

                                      To claim otherwise is nothing more than using a false claim (that ONLY a court can pass judgement) as justification for not having an opinion.

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                                      • the5thcolumnist@mstdn.caT the5thcolumnist@mstdn.ca

                                        @angela_underscore @mayintoronto

                                        no I was just daft

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                                        @the5thColumnist @mayintoronto

                                        Email dated at 0006h Eastern time, yesterday’s 2206h in Edmonton announced:

                                        Mastodon Canada:
                                        State of the Instance Spring 2026
                                        Postponement

                                        We are postponing our Spring 2026 State of the Instance scheduled for tomorrow.

                                        A new date and time will be provided soon.

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                                        • danbrotherston@types.plD danbrotherston@types.pl

                                          @evdelen @mayintoronto

                                          Are you his jailor?

                                          I'm so tired of people pretending that "guilty in a court of law" is the only way we're allowed to have opinions about people's wrongdoing. Courts make findings about the guilt of someone in the eyes of the state justice system. I.e., the state and it's ability to imprison you is the ONLY entity that is bound to a court judgement.

                                          So I'll say it clearly, it doesn't matter that a court hasn't made a finding yet, yes you're still allowed to have an opinion about someone's behaviour and have consequences for that.

                                          To claim otherwise is nothing more than using a false claim (that ONLY a court can pass judgement) as justification for not having an opinion.

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                                          @danbrotherston @mayintoronto

                                          The civil courts are a process (there hasn't been a criminal charge laid in the matter so let's set that aside for now).

                                          The process is as follows:

                                          The plaintiff files and serves a Statement of Claim, in other words The Allegation.

                                          After that, the defendant files a Statement of Defense and/or a Counter Claim.

                                          That second step hasn't happened yet.

                                          Even if we accept your premise that it doesn't matter what the courts decide, don't you think it's fair to at least hear the other side of the story?

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