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People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown.

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  • mattmoose@mastodon.worldM mattmoose@mastodon.world

    @CiaraNi

    Doesn't this call for some sort of traceable watermarking, or otherwise trustworthy assurance of human originality? While such stupid conditions prevail, for now?

    The citationless crap that fills social media is readily regurgitated. I'm sure I'm guilty of it too. I just meant well...

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    @MattMoose Agreed. A verified symbol of authenticity would be nice at this point. Like for organic fruit or vegan produce or allergy-free products or whatever. The whole uncertainty is awful. We get tricked, which makes us suspicious. We get it wrong in either direction, no doubt - thinking AI is real, thinking real images are fake.

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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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      @CiaraNi

      Fake news and AI Fakery is all part of a deliberate strategy.........if we loose the ability to work out what's real then those with power can get away with murder.

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      • stveje@mstdn.socialS stveje@mstdn.social

        RE: https://eldritch.cafe/@lynatic/116439531277946968

        @CiaraNi It is apparently watermarked by the AI that generated it (though I haven't checked this myself). I'd consider that pretty strong proof, since I can't imagine why anyone would add an AI watermark to a real, non-AI picture (but then again, people do lots of things I can't imagine people doing)

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        @stveje Oh, so there is an actual AI-watermark. What a vicious circle all of this runs in. And such a terrible waste of all our human time and energy. I'd prefer to look at those real, non-AI pictures too!

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        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

          People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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          @CiaraNi

          Breaking social trust is the point of AI.
          That's why they're investing billions.

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          • monkee@other.liM monkee@other.li

            @CiaraNi@mastodon.green Even sader - The AI STOLE the Bird and the Droplet Picture from a real human to make this new fake one. ​​

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            @monkee It is a shame when photo images that are lovely in themselves get scraped for reuse and misuse by others. We could just enjoy the lovely originals instead!

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            • billyjoebowers@mastodon.onlineB billyjoebowers@mastodon.online

              @CiaraNi

              Breaking social trust is the point of AI.
              That's why they're investing billions.

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              @billyjoebowers Yes, I know

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                @stveje Oh, so there is an actual AI-watermark. What a vicious circle all of this runs in. And such a terrible waste of all our human time and energy. I'd prefer to look at those real, non-AI pictures too!

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                @CiaraNi It's so depressing. Worst part is there doesn't seem to be any solution.

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                • stveje@mstdn.socialS stveje@mstdn.social

                  @CiaraNi It's so depressing. Worst part is there doesn't seem to be any solution.

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                  @stveje

                  "Worst part is there doesn't seem to be any solution."

                  Agreed. It makes it extra exhausting. There's no end in sight.

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                  • frutigeraero00@mastodon.socialF frutigeraero00@mastodon.social

                    @CiaraNi https://mastodon.social/@Adrenochrome/116437261511916461

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                    @CiaraNi My father when he saw the image, an intellectual: waterdrops don't create that shape on a concave surface, only when its flat.

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                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                      @stveje

                      "Worst part is there doesn't seem to be any solution."

                      Agreed. It makes it extra exhausting. There's no end in sight.

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                      @CiaraNi @stveje Oh, good grief. I thought it was real and am both disappointed in myself for not being more attuned to the telltale signs you pointed out and angry at the original poster who obviously intended this to deceive.

                      This is why we can’t have nice things.

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                      • frutigeraero00@mastodon.socialF frutigeraero00@mastodon.social

                        @CiaraNi My father when he saw the image, an intellectual: waterdrops don't create that shape on a concave surface, only when its flat.

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                        @FrutigerAero00 There seems to be consensus that a water droplet only makes that shape when hitting a flat body of water.

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                        • frutigeraero00@mastodon.socialF frutigeraero00@mastodon.social

                          @CiaraNi My father when he saw the image, an intellectual: waterdrops don't create that shape on a concave surface, only when its flat.

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                          @CiaraNi Still, i know this ai issue could bring a pessimistic approach, but I think, on the other side, this issue will connect humans even more, here's why:

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                            @the_wub @ratiogeraet Yes, it's a known strategy

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                            • frutigeraero00@mastodon.socialF frutigeraero00@mastodon.social

                              @CiaraNi Still, i know this ai issue could bring a pessimistic approach, but I think, on the other side, this issue will connect humans even more, here's why:

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                              @CiaraNi We humans wants the truth, and we hate ai, and what we are doing here together is whats keeps humanity alive: searching for clues if its ai or not, looking for the real author, sharing opinions, talking! This is incredible, seeing all of us cooperate to unmask ai!

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                              • frutigeraero00@mastodon.socialF frutigeraero00@mastodon.social

                                @CiaraNi We humans wants the truth, and we hate ai, and what we are doing here together is whats keeps humanity alive: searching for clues if its ai or not, looking for the real author, sharing opinions, talking! This is incredible, seeing all of us cooperate to unmask ai!

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                                @CiaraNi Also it could be a good way to source all artists here on the internet. A good practice we should be encouraging now even more because of ai.

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                                • fgraver@hcommons.socialF fgraver@hcommons.social

                                  @CiaraNi @stveje Oh, good grief. I thought it was real and am both disappointed in myself for not being more attuned to the telltale signs you pointed out and angry at the original poster who obviously intended this to deceive.

                                  This is why we can’t have nice things.

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                                  @fgraver @stveje If I am wrong, I will rush to correct myself. But all signs point to it being faked. I don't know how we 100% irrefutably prove something was AI-manipulated, as some have requested, but a verifiable original source of a real image would at least disprove it. But there is none so far.

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                                  • weirdmustard@flipping.rocksW weirdmustard@flipping.rocks

                                    @CiaraNi We've started seeing rare species being uploaded to iNaturalist and other citizen science platforms and then it turns out it's AI and I just don't see whyyyy people are doing that. Like No, your AI imagination of a rare insect isn't just as good as someone finding a living specimen, what do you mean. Who profits from that. Who wants to see a "photo" of a fake bird. What's going on.

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                                    @weirdmustard @CiaraNi it's certainly making me question every image I see of a species new to me. Not only birds.

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                                    • fgraver@hcommons.socialF fgraver@hcommons.social

                                      @CiaraNi @stveje Oh, good grief. I thought it was real and am both disappointed in myself for not being more attuned to the telltale signs you pointed out and angry at the original poster who obviously intended this to deceive.

                                      This is why we can’t have nice things.

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                                      @fgraver @CiaraNi I couldn't tell if it was real or not at first either. I thought it looked too perfect to be true, but I really wasn't sure. I had to read the comments to convince myself it was AI, and it makes me so sad that we can't just enjoy pretty/funny pictures of cute birbs anymore.

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                                      • frutigeraero00@mastodon.socialF frutigeraero00@mastodon.social

                                        @CiaraNi Also it could be a good way to source all artists here on the internet. A good practice we should be encouraging now even more because of ai.

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                                        @CiaraNi Also, it reminds me when there was this bot boom accounts, we were discouraged at first, but i will keep finding ways to spot ai content, directly and indirectly, i will not let stupid people to get omw, the more informated we keep, the better, keep the fight on!

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                                        • frutigeraero00@mastodon.socialF frutigeraero00@mastodon.social

                                          @CiaraNi @stekopf @VerenaRupp https://mastodon.social/@Adrenochrome/116437261511916461

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                                          @FrutigerAero00 @CiaraNi @VerenaRupp

                                          I was also doubting whether it's real or AI (it has to be a quite big droplet for such a solid crown - or maybe it were two?).
                                          I can't confirm the image, but I trust the poster.

                                          So, if this is any good, then it - again - shows how important trust is.

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