People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown.
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@stekopf @VerenaRupp Everything points to it being AI (there are plausible reasons in the photo's thread and in this one.) I don't know how I can prove technically that it is not an AI image. A verified source for the actual photographer and original photo would prove it but nobody seems to have found one.
How do we prove something is or isn't AI in the absence of an original source?
Edit to add: I was sure. Until people started questioning me. Which made me unsure. This is the whole AI mess.
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People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.
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A few people have questioned whether I am right to say that the image of a drop of water bursting on a bird's head like a crown actually is AI-generated. They think I may be wrong. That it is not faked. That it is real.
If I'm wrong, if it really is an unmanipulated photo by a verified human photographer, please do let me know so that I can correct myself and my toot.
(All this uncertainty is part of the whole problem. We all spend so much human time & energy trying to act in good faith.)
RE: https://eldritch.cafe/@lynatic/116439531277946968
@CiaraNi It is apparently watermarked by the AI that generated it (though I haven't checked this myself). I'd consider that pretty strong proof, since I can't imagine why anyone would add an AI watermark to a real, non-AI picture (but then again, people do lots of things I can't imagine people doing)
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People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.
@CiaraNi@mastodon.green Even sader - The AI STOLE the Bird and the Droplet Picture from a real human to make this new fake one.
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Doesn't this call for some sort of traceable watermarking, or otherwise trustworthy assurance of human originality? While such stupid conditions prevail, for now?
The citationless crap that fills social media is readily regurgitated. I'm sure I'm guilty of it too. I just meant well...
@MattMoose Agreed. A verified symbol of authenticity would be nice at this point. Like for organic fruit or vegan produce or allergy-free products or whatever. The whole uncertainty is awful. We get tricked, which makes us suspicious. We get it wrong in either direction, no doubt - thinking AI is real, thinking real images are fake.
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People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.
Fake news and AI Fakery is all part of a deliberate strategy.........if we loose the ability to work out what's real then those with power can get away with murder.
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RE: https://eldritch.cafe/@lynatic/116439531277946968
@CiaraNi It is apparently watermarked by the AI that generated it (though I haven't checked this myself). I'd consider that pretty strong proof, since I can't imagine why anyone would add an AI watermark to a real, non-AI picture (but then again, people do lots of things I can't imagine people doing)
@stveje Oh, so there is an actual AI-watermark. What a vicious circle all of this runs in. And such a terrible waste of all our human time and energy. I'd prefer to look at those real, non-AI pictures too!
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People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.
Breaking social trust is the point of AI.
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@CiaraNi@mastodon.green Even sader - The AI STOLE the Bird and the Droplet Picture from a real human to make this new fake one.
@monkee It is a shame when photo images that are lovely in themselves get scraped for reuse and misuse by others. We could just enjoy the lovely originals instead!
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Breaking social trust is the point of AI.
That's why they're investing billions.@billyjoebowers Yes, I know
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@stveje Oh, so there is an actual AI-watermark. What a vicious circle all of this runs in. And such a terrible waste of all our human time and energy. I'd prefer to look at those real, non-AI pictures too!
@CiaraNi It's so depressing. Worst part is there doesn't seem to be any solution.
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@CiaraNi It's so depressing. Worst part is there doesn't seem to be any solution.
"Worst part is there doesn't seem to be any solution."
Agreed. It makes it extra exhausting. There's no end in sight.
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@CiaraNi My father when he saw the image, an intellectual: waterdrops don't create that shape on a concave surface, only when its flat.
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"Worst part is there doesn't seem to be any solution."
Agreed. It makes it extra exhausting. There's no end in sight.
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@CiaraNi My father when he saw the image, an intellectual: waterdrops don't create that shape on a concave surface, only when its flat.
@FrutigerAero00 There seems to be consensus that a water droplet only makes that shape when hitting a flat body of water.
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@CiaraNi My father when he saw the image, an intellectual: waterdrops don't create that shape on a concave surface, only when its flat.
@CiaraNi Still, i know this ai issue could bring a pessimistic approach, but I think, on the other side, this issue will connect humans even more, here's why:
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@the_wub @ratiogeraet Yes, it's a known strategy
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@CiaraNi Still, i know this ai issue could bring a pessimistic approach, but I think, on the other side, this issue will connect humans even more, here's why:
@CiaraNi We humans wants the truth, and we hate ai, and what we are doing here together is whats keeps humanity alive: searching for clues if its ai or not, looking for the real author, sharing opinions, talking! This is incredible, seeing all of us cooperate to unmask ai!
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@CiaraNi We humans wants the truth, and we hate ai, and what we are doing here together is whats keeps humanity alive: searching for clues if its ai or not, looking for the real author, sharing opinions, talking! This is incredible, seeing all of us cooperate to unmask ai!
@CiaraNi Also it could be a good way to source all artists here on the internet. A good practice we should be encouraging now even more because of ai.
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@fgraver @stveje If I am wrong, I will rush to correct myself. But all signs point to it being faked. I don't know how we 100% irrefutably prove something was AI-manipulated, as some have requested, but a verifiable original source of a real image would at least disprove it. But there is none so far.
