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  3. Google Chrome Team: We are disabling RTTI in our builds because it adds 10-20% to the size of the final binary and that overhead is too much.

Google Chrome Team: We are disabling RTTI in our builds because it adds 10-20% to the size of the final binary and that overhead is too much.

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    Google Chrome Team: We are disabling RTTI in our builds because it adds 10-20% to the size of the final binary and that overhead is too much. Download times and installed disk space are really important.

    Also the Google Chrome Team: We’re going to bundle an LLM with the install. Sure, it’s ten times the size of the whole of the rest of the browser, but I’m sure it’s fine.

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      Google Chrome Team: We are disabling RTTI in our builds because it adds 10-20% to the size of the final binary and that overhead is too much. Download times and installed disk space are really important.

      Also the Google Chrome Team: We’re going to bundle an LLM with the install. Sure, it’s ten times the size of the whole of the rest of the browser, but I’m sure it’s fine.

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      @david_chisnall as far as I remember Firefox also bundles an LLM with the install (useful at least for in browser translations) but it still manages to keep the size reasonable...

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        @david_chisnall as far as I remember Firefox also bundles an LLM with the install (useful at least for in browser translations) but it still manages to keep the size reasonable...

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        @mariusor

        I think the Firefox translation models are downloaded on demand, the first time you request on-device translation from a specific language. Each language pair is about 60 MiB.

        These are an amazing piece of engineering. They’re designed so that they can be trained on a single (powerful) desktop and they’re trained from corpora that are specifically built (and licensed) for improving machine translation.

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          @mariusor

          I think the Firefox translation models are downloaded on demand, the first time you request on-device translation from a specific language. Each language pair is about 60 MiB.

          These are an amazing piece of engineering. They’re designed so that they can be trained on a single (powerful) desktop and they’re trained from corpora that are specifically built (and licensed) for improving machine translation.

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          @david_chisnall ah, I see, I missed that somehow, but it makes total sense.

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            @mkljczk it does, it does: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/website-translation#w_how-do-i-enable-the-translation-panel

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              @mkljczk @mariusor

              I really wish Mozilla would stop calling things like this ‘AI’ because it causes exactly the confusion that you’re addressing.

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