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  • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

    Château Big Tech. Cartoon for Dutch newspaper Trouw.

    #BigTech #data #DataHarvesting #SocialMedia #Meta

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    @royaards Thank you for putting it out so clearly for all of us.
    The Euro sign on the buyer's suitcase is especially grim.
    Love your caartoons, always find the way to make me a little angrier.

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    • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

      Château Big Tech. Cartoon for Dutch newspaper Trouw.

      #BigTech #data #DataHarvesting #SocialMedia #Meta

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      @royaards
      Brain for sale, appetizing young brain for sale, brain that's fresh and still unspoiled, brain that's only slightly soiled, brain for sale.

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      • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

        Château Big Tech. Cartoon for Dutch newspaper Trouw.

        #BigTech #data #DataHarvesting #SocialMedia #Meta

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        @royaards Apple has many problems, but selling their customers data is not one of them

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          @royaards Apple has many problems, but selling their customers data is not one of them

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          @zed @royaards I think they were just pulling the usual FAANG logos to make their point, which Apple is a part of. It would have been more accurate to include OpenAI, Copilot, and Anthropic logos.

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          • zed@mstdn.partyZ zed@mstdn.party

            @royaards Apple has many problems, but selling their customers data is not one of them

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            @zed @royaards I used to think that, too. Turns out: when you're a publicly traded company, given enough time, anything you can get away with to increase shareholder value, you will do.

            Not only does Apple engage in advertising (and collect much of the same info that Facebook collects) [1], they have double standards when upholding their purported values matters the most [2,3].

            A publicly traded company is not able to protect your interests long term.

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            • tastyraspberry@mastodon.onlineT tastyraspberry@mastodon.online

              @zed @royaards I used to think that, too. Turns out: when you're a publicly traded company, given enough time, anything you can get away with to increase shareholder value, you will do.

              Not only does Apple engage in advertising (and collect much of the same info that Facebook collects) [1], they have double standards when upholding their purported values matters the most [2,3].

              A publicly traded company is not able to protect your interests long term.

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              @zed @royaards
              Apple implicitly claims that if you pay a premium for their hardware, they'll treat you better than tech companies in the freemium business model. That was probably true at one point, but it stopped being true years ago.

              The first two reads are from the excellent @pluralistic. He sometimes drops a bit too many jawdropping facts at once, but he does a great job of providing sources.

              [1] https://pluralistic.net/2022/11/14/luxury-surveillance/#liar-liar

              [2] https://pluralistic.net/2021/05/18/unhealthy-balance-sheet/#think-manorialism

              [3] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-censorship-data.html

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              • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

                Château Big Tech. Cartoon for Dutch newspaper Trouw.

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                @royaards this HURTS!

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                • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

                  Château Big Tech. Cartoon for Dutch newspaper Trouw.

                  #BigTech #data #DataHarvesting #SocialMedia #Meta

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                  @royaards

                  Pure diefstal...

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                  • tastyraspberry@mastodon.onlineT tastyraspberry@mastodon.online

                    @zed @royaards
                    Apple implicitly claims that if you pay a premium for their hardware, they'll treat you better than tech companies in the freemium business model. That was probably true at one point, but it stopped being true years ago.

                    The first two reads are from the excellent @pluralistic. He sometimes drops a bit too many jawdropping facts at once, but he does a great job of providing sources.

                    [1] https://pluralistic.net/2022/11/14/luxury-surveillance/#liar-liar

                    [2] https://pluralistic.net/2021/05/18/unhealthy-balance-sheet/#think-manorialism

                    [3] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-censorship-data.html

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                    @tastyraspberry @royaards @pluralistic Like my original post said, Apple does have problems, but selling their customers data is not one of them (and none of the source material you linked to argues otherwise).

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                      @royaards When you say no-brainer

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                      • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

                        Château Big Tech. Cartoon for Dutch newspaper Trouw.

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                        @royaards Ouch.. this hits where it hurts (and rightfully so!!!)

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                        • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

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                          @royaards dutch newspaper cooked

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                          • zed@mstdn.partyZ zed@mstdn.party

                            @tastyraspberry @royaards @pluralistic Like my original post said, Apple does have problems, but selling their customers data is not one of them (and none of the source material you linked to argues otherwise).

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                            @zed @tastyraspberry @royaards @pluralistic https://tosdr.org/en/service/158
                            They dont sell data, but still dont do the best things with it

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                            • zed@mstdn.partyZ zed@mstdn.party

                              @royaards Apple has many problems, but selling their customers data is not one of them

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                              @zed @royaards Google and most of the others listed don't sell customer data either, they sell ad targeting based on customer data.

                              Apple does the same through their ads program (for e.g. the App Store, Apple News, and soon Maps).

                              Selling customer data would be dumb for these companies, since it would undermine their ad programs.

                              Apple also does nothing to stop in-app tracking, so you are still leaking a lot of data (they only disallow cross-app tracking following user intent).

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                                @zed @royaards Google and most of the others listed don't sell customer data either, they sell ad targeting based on customer data.

                                Apple does the same through their ads program (for e.g. the App Store, Apple News, and soon Maps).

                                Selling customer data would be dumb for these companies, since it would undermine their ad programs.

                                Apple also does nothing to stop in-app tracking, so you are still leaking a lot of data (they only disallow cross-app tracking following user intent).

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                                @zed @royaards Data is sold by the gazillion scammy data brokers that use in-app analytics, website analytics, etc.

                                Apple's privacy stance is largely a charade, because if they cared about privacy, they would give users the tools to completely block in-app tracking (or forbid it outright).

                                Instead we have to deal with it by using DNS-based blocking, which is incomplete (but still better to use than an iPhone/Android phone without).

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                                  @royaards@newsie.social This is just have ​​​​ written all over...
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                                  • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

                                    Château Big Tech. Cartoon for Dutch newspaper Trouw.

                                    #BigTech #data #DataHarvesting #SocialMedia #Meta

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                                    @royaards - True 100%

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                                      @zed @tastyraspberry @royaards @pluralistic https://tosdr.org/en/service/158
                                      They dont sell data, but still dont do the best things with it

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                                      @yugthebug @zed @royaards @pluralistic Selling vs. indirectly giving access to user data: a distinction without a meaningful difference.

                                      1) collect the data
                                      2) make assumptions (e.g. whether you're part of a minority, prone to spending impulsively, what your stance on refugees might be...) based on it
                                      3) tell other companies that they can advertise to users based on one of hundreds of criteria, such as the above

                                      This is why Google, Facebook and Apple can all claim they don't sell your data.

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                                      • tastyraspberry@mastodon.onlineT tastyraspberry@mastodon.online

                                        @yugthebug @zed @royaards @pluralistic Selling vs. indirectly giving access to user data: a distinction without a meaningful difference.

                                        1) collect the data
                                        2) make assumptions (e.g. whether you're part of a minority, prone to spending impulsively, what your stance on refugees might be...) based on it
                                        3) tell other companies that they can advertise to users based on one of hundreds of criteria, such as the above

                                        This is why Google, Facebook and Apple can all claim they don't sell your data.

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                                        @yugthebug @zed @royaards @pluralistic So technically @zed is correct by claiming Apple doesn't sell user data. But most companies engaging in advertising don't, and it's still an unethical shitshow, so it's a moot point.

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