Gee, maybe Signal shouldn’t keep harassing people to turn on notifications and take no for an answer?
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@darkuncle @aral Absolutely. I think the solution for such an issue would be to properly communicate what an option means so that the user can make a proper decision.
One possible tactic that comes to mind is if a user opts to not enable notifications from the prompt, display a second prompt along the lines of "Are you sure? You won't get notified and will have to open the app to check messages. You can change this option in this menu later." and lock the confirmation and cancellation options behind a 3-5 second timer so that the user is more likely to actually read the warning and not thoughtlessly tap the confirm option just to get rid of it. I don't have years of experience designing and testing UX though so there's probably better ways to accomplish the goal.
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@darkuncle “Yes / Ask me again later” is a hostile design pattern that shows a profound lack of respect for consent. Signal should be doing better.
You do not know better than the person making the decision whether or not they want notifications on.
(The opposite of “yes” is “no”.)
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@aral @darkuncle @Mer__edith please help me
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@darkuncle “Yes / Ask me again later” is a hostile design pattern that shows a profound lack of respect for consent. Signal should be doing better.
You do not know better than the person making the decision whether or not they want notifications on.
(The opposite of “yes” is “no”.)
CC @Mer__edith
But come on, Eileen! Please.
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RE: https://infosec.exchange/@molytov/116376968214888959
Gee, maybe Signal shouldn’t keep harassing people to turn on notifications and take no for an answer?
Thoughts, @Mer__edith?
@Mer__edith Oh, and would you look at that, right on cue…
The opposite of “yes” is “no”, not “not now” or “ask me later”.
#hostileDesign #consent #Signal #design #theOppositeOfYesIsNo
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@Mer__edith Oh, and would you look at that, right on cue…
The opposite of “yes” is “no”, not “not now” or “ask me later”.
#hostileDesign #consent #Signal #design #theOppositeOfYesIsNo
@Mer__edith @aral there should be a special place in hell for developers who have yes and later as options…
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@Mer__edith Oh, and would you look at that, right on cue…
The opposite of “yes” is “no”, not “not now” or “ask me later”.
#hostileDesign #consent #Signal #design #theOppositeOfYesIsNo
@Mer__edith No, thank you. Please don’t.
Behind every app that won’t take “no” for an answer, there’s a developer that doesn’t understand the concept of consent.
This is a legacy anti-feature, implemented at a time before Signal’s new leadership. I expect better, going forward.
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@Mer__edith Oh, and would you look at that, right on cue…
The opposite of “yes” is “no”, not “not now” or “ask me later”.
#hostileDesign #consent #Signal #design #theOppositeOfYesIsNo
I noticed that too.
Also in other recent micro annoyance news; are ads now playing out in full on youtube and elsewhere before the option to 'skip' is offered?
or is that just me?
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@Mer__edith Oh, and would you look at that, right on cue…
The opposite of “yes” is “no”, not “not now” or “ask me later”.
#hostileDesign #consent #Signal #design #theOppositeOfYesIsNo
@aral @Mer__edith to me its a sign of enshittification, see this classic example from Microsoft if you dare to use the web interface via a browser
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I noticed that too.
Also in other recent micro annoyance news; are ads now playing out in full on youtube and elsewhere before the option to 'skip' is offered?
or is that just me?
(I don’t see ads on the occasions I’m forced on YouTube.)
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@aral @Mer__edith to me its a sign of enshittification, see this classic example from Microsoft if you dare to use the web interface via a browser
@RichBartlett @Mer__edith There was a time Microsoft wasn’t shit?
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