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  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

    ๐ŸšจAge verification seems to be unstoppable. ๐Ÿšจ

    Following the Australian precedence, Greece & Brazil now also passed laws that will require age checks for social media.๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท

    Whatโ€™s sold as โ€œonline safetyโ€ means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

    Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

    We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

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    #13

    @Tutanota I agree with most points in this post, but the privacy section seems slightly incomplete to me. Using identity wallets which use zero knowledge proofs (e.g. @yivi_privacybydesign), proving โ€˜being over 16โ€™ can be done without oneโ€™s ID or any other PIID with a central server.

    The point of being limited to governmental ID holders still mostly holds up though (although it shifts to e.g. EUDI wallet holders, which happen to not necessarily use zero knowledge proofs)

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    • angiebaby@mas.toA angiebaby@mas.to

      @GOKUSHRM @Tutanota

      You are still holding out faith in the humanity of those who already hoard more money than they can possibly spend in a lifetime while people are starving.

      Billionaires do not see you as a human being.

      They see you as an obstacle.

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      #14

      @angiebaby @Tutanota it's ur POV, not everyone's . I'm also rich & still against big tech and the current system running in world. But i still don't hate every person just because they are rich or poor .. As I said not every rich person is bad or corrupt..

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      • W wadavxx@mastodon.social

        @dick_turpin @Tutanota

        Isn't it slow tho? I'm quite shocked that it took them that long to introduce such things

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        #15

        @wadavxx @dick_turpin @Tutanota They had to defeat our laws first. Had to convince people that they need to be tracked. 20 years ago nobody would have put up with this shit. Not to this extreme. They had to go slow.

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        • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

          @angiebaby @Tutanota it's ur POV, not everyone's . I'm also rich & still against big tech and the current system running in world. But i still don't hate every person just because they are rich or poor .. As I said not every rich person is bad or corrupt..

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          #16

          @GOKUSHRM @Tutanota

          Cool. I do not care that you have a lot of money.

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          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

            ๐ŸšจAge verification seems to be unstoppable. ๐Ÿšจ

            Following the Australian precedence, Greece & Brazil now also passed laws that will require age checks for social media.๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท

            Whatโ€™s sold as โ€œonline safetyโ€ means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

            Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

            We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

            ๐Ÿ‘‰ More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

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            #17

            @Tutanota not every country uses Id or face checks. They use zero knowledge proof. Which at least doesn't give any data

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            • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

              @wadavxx @dick_turpin @Tutanota They had to defeat our laws first. Had to convince people that they need to be tracked. 20 years ago nobody would have put up with this shit. Not to this extreme. They had to go slow.

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              #18

              @crazyeddie They had help, and they get help every day. Every time you see someone on the Fediverse saying, for example, "We need protecting from right-wing influencers!" that's the coattails governments ride on. "Ooh, they want protection! Let's implement a check system, for their own protection, of course."

              Every news report you see where someone was encouraged or driven to commit suicide or self-harm, governments use that as justification to lock the web down. ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ

              @wadavxx @Tutanota

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              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                ๐ŸšจAge verification seems to be unstoppable. ๐Ÿšจ

                Following the Australian precedence, Greece & Brazil now also passed laws that will require age checks for social media.๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท

                Whatโ€™s sold as โ€œonline safetyโ€ means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

                Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

                We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

                ๐Ÿ‘‰ More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

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                #19

                ppl start arguing, thn run away.. Wow

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                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                  ๐ŸšจAge verification seems to be unstoppable. ๐Ÿšจ

                  Following the Australian precedence, Greece & Brazil now also passed laws that will require age checks for social media.๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท

                  Whatโ€™s sold as โ€œonline safetyโ€ means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

                  Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

                  We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

                  ๐Ÿ‘‰ More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

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                  #20

                  @Tutanota

                  Brazil has passed law not only to require age checks for social media, but also for operating systems.

                  The Digital Statute of Children and Adolescents (ECA Digital - Law No. 15211/2025) is regulated by Decree 12880/2026, clearing stating in the Article 2 (IV to VII) and the Article 15.

                  https://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/_ato2023-2026/2026/Decreto/D12880.htm

                  In the USA, H.R. 8250 requires operating system providers to verify the age of any user of an operating system.

                  Just a moment...

                  favicon

                  (www.congress.gov)

                  Strange world we live on...

                  ๐Ÿคจ

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                  • gustavo_rezende@mastodon.socialG gustavo_rezende@mastodon.social

                    @Tutanota

                    Brazil has passed law not only to require age checks for social media, but also for operating systems.

                    The Digital Statute of Children and Adolescents (ECA Digital - Law No. 15211/2025) is regulated by Decree 12880/2026, clearing stating in the Article 2 (IV to VII) and the Article 15.

                    https://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/_ato2023-2026/2026/Decreto/D12880.htm

                    In the USA, H.R. 8250 requires operating system providers to verify the age of any user of an operating system.

                    Just a moment...

                    favicon

                    (www.congress.gov)

                    Strange world we live on...

                    ๐Ÿคจ

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                    #21

                    @gustavo_rezende

                    Sorry, Mum, I can't vacuum my room. That new Dyson is running some kind of Windows and it says I'm too young.

                    @Tutanota

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                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                      ๐ŸšจAge verification seems to be unstoppable. ๐Ÿšจ

                      Following the Australian precedence, Greece & Brazil now also passed laws that will require age checks for social media.๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท

                      Whatโ€™s sold as โ€œonline safetyโ€ means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

                      Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

                      We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

                      ๐Ÿ‘‰ More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

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                      @Tutanota@mastodon.social Brazil isn't a democracy. Australia had a tendency of censorship for several years now from what I followed so I wonder how far off it had been. And not familiar with Greece to comment on them.

                      Saying it's unstoppable normalizes in the mind of the people the problem for when it does come, a strategy used to exhaustion in Brazil so people don't push back.

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                      • zeitverschreib@freundica.deZ zeitverschreib@freundica.de

                        @gustavo_rezende

                        Sorry, Mum, I can't vacuum my room. That new Dyson is running some kind of Windows and it says I'm too young.

                        @Tutanota

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                        #23

                        @zeitverschreib @Tutanota

                        A brazilian bureaucrat once said it would be wonderful having a digital money at the time of Covid-19 pandemic - Drex - making possible to government restrict where a person could spend his money (english subtitles available in YouTube).

                        https://youtu.be/dQ4RynCrvKA?si=hR3q2Z_-d0n9EEQX&t=517

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                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                          ๐ŸšจAge verification seems to be unstoppable. ๐Ÿšจ

                          Following the Australian precedence, Greece & Brazil now also passed laws that will require age checks for social media.๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท

                          Whatโ€™s sold as โ€œonline safetyโ€ means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

                          Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

                          We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

                          ๐Ÿ‘‰ More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

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                          @Tutanota The fact that no one switch to another platform is disappointing.

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                          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                            ๐ŸšจAge verification seems to be unstoppable. ๐Ÿšจ

                            Following the Australian precedence, Greece & Brazil now also passed laws that will require age checks for social media.๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท

                            Whatโ€™s sold as โ€œonline safetyโ€ means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

                            Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

                            We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

                            ๐Ÿ‘‰ More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

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                            @Tutanota

                            DAMMIT, Lula๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท !!!!

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                            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                              ๐ŸšจAge verification seems to be unstoppable. ๐Ÿšจ

                              Following the Australian precedence, Greece & Brazil now also passed laws that will require age checks for social media.๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท

                              Whatโ€™s sold as โ€œonline safetyโ€ means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

                              Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

                              We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

                              ๐Ÿ‘‰ More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

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                              @Tutanota

                              I can see both sides of this. Social media sites that don't moderate their content should be prohibited for younger users. But at the same time, "papers please" is a terrible approach.

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                              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                ๐ŸšจAge verification seems to be unstoppable. ๐Ÿšจ

                                Following the Australian precedence, Greece & Brazil now also passed laws that will require age checks for social media.๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท

                                Whatโ€™s sold as โ€œonline safetyโ€ means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

                                Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

                                We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

                                ๐Ÿ‘‰ More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

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                                @Tutanota Age verification will never be a good option to protect minors online.

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                                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                  ๐ŸšจAge verification seems to be unstoppable. ๐Ÿšจ

                                  Following the Australian precedence, Greece & Brazil now also passed laws that will require age checks for social media.๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท

                                  Whatโ€™s sold as โ€œonline safetyโ€ means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

                                  Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

                                  We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

                                  ๐Ÿ‘‰ More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

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                                  @Tutanota

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                                    At the end of the day, we found China and Russia are pioneers...
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