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Economy's looking wobbly eh?#US #economy

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  • abucci@buc.ciA This user is from outside of this forum
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    Economy's looking wobbly eh?

    #US #economy
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      Economy's looking wobbly eh?

      #US #economy
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      Alphabet sells rare 100-year bond to fund AI expansion as spending surges

      From https://www.reuters.com/business/alphabet-sells-bonds-worth-20-billion-fund-ai-spending-2026-02-10/

      Yeahhhhhh OK.


      #US #economy #bubble #AIBubble #AI #GenAI #GenerativeAI
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        Alphabet sells rare 100-year bond to fund AI expansion as spending surges

        From https://www.reuters.com/business/alphabet-sells-bonds-worth-20-billion-fund-ai-spending-2026-02-10/

        Yeahhhhhh OK.


        #US #economy #bubble #AIBubble #AI #GenAI #GenerativeAI
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        @abucci Motorola issued its 100-year bond the year before Nokia overtook it as the biggest seller of handsets. Three years later, Motorola was losing money on every handset it sold. Within ten years of the bond, the company split to avoid a selloff. Alphabet knows all of this because they bought Motorola Mobility two years later.

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          @abucci Motorola issued its 100-year bond the year before Nokia overtook it as the biggest seller of handsets. Three years later, Motorola was losing money on every handset it sold. Within ten years of the bond, the company split to avoid a selloff. Alphabet knows all of this because they bought Motorola Mobility two years later.

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          @lrhodes@merveilles.town The history of these is quite wild. I believe Motorola was the last tech company to issue a century bond before Alphabet.

          One thing it says to me is that Alphabet is not expecting the explosive profits from AI that the industry has been suggesting are forthcoming. Convertible bonds are what would allow investors to take advantage of AI upside. Century bonds are traditionally issued by slow-growing, stable businesses like Ford or Coke. There's no way for me to know for sure, but it feels like a desperate confession.

          I hadn't remembered that Alphabet bought Motorola Mobility so perhaps they even had a ready-made playbook on hand. Interesting.
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            Google and Microsoft offer lucrative deals to promote AI, but even $500,000 won’t sway some creators

            From https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/06/google-microsoft-pay-creators-500000-and-more-to-promote-ai.html

            Echoes of Matt Damon shilling crypto.

            If the organic demand for AI were as high as we've been led to believe, what's with the big paychecks to shill it?

            #US #economy #bubble #AIBubble #AI #GenAI #GenerativeAI
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              As a ratio with the general S&P 500, Microsoft is at the level it was before ChatGPT launched. Any relative advantage one might have had from long-term investment in Microsoft instead of an S&P 500 index has been erased.

              #US #economy #stocks #CasinoCapitalism #AIBubble #AI #GenAI #GenerativeAI #ChatGPT #GPT #Microsoft
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                Notice the takeoff between Q3 2024 and Q1 2025.

                Permalink: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1RGjU

                #US #economy #uncertainty
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