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Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

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  • cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
    cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

    That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

    You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

    What's that? Why's that?

    Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

    That first hit! It's free! Hey!

    I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

    Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

    cwebber@social.coopC alienghic@timeloop.cafeA lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL ret@furry.engineerR ben@mastodon.lubar.meB 23 Replies Last reply
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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

      That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

      You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

      What's that? Why's that?

      Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

      That first hit! It's free! Hey!

      I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

      Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

      cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
      cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
      cwebber@social.coop
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      #2

      Hey don't worry! They limit it to $100 / month by default once you go past their limit of free credits.

      Their free credits of ONE THOUSAND TIMES the default upper limit.

      So once you have a business running, once you've crossed that free "gift"...

      I'm sure it'll cost about $100/month on average by then. Yeah! That seems likely!

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

        That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

        You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

        What's that? Why's that?

        Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

        That first hit! It's free! Hey!

        I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

        Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

        alienghic@timeloop.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
        alienghic@timeloop.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
        alienghic@timeloop.cafe
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        #3

        @cwebber

        Look it's an economy free of pesky poor people!

        Just a handful of rich people making numbers increment forever without any negative consequences for them.

        weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW 1 Reply Last reply
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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

          That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

          You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

          What's that? Why's that?

          Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

          That first hit! It's free! Hey!

          I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

          Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

          lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL This user is from outside of this forum
          lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL This user is from outside of this forum
          lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
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          #4
          @cwebber Reminds me of sometimes wanting to get away from Stripe, thankfully never used Cloudflare.
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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

            That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

            You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

            What's that? Why's that?

            Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

            That first hit! It's free! Hey!

            I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

            Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

            ret@furry.engineerR This user is from outside of this forum
            ret@furry.engineerR This user is from outside of this forum
            ret@furry.engineer
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            #5

            @cwebber financial russian roulette basically

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

              That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

              You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

              What's that? Why's that?

              Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

              That first hit! It's free! Hey!

              I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

              Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

              ben@mastodon.lubar.meB This user is from outside of this forum
              ben@mastodon.lubar.meB This user is from outside of this forum
              ben@mastodon.lubar.me
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              #6

              @cwebber $100k of free what

              ben@mastodon.lubar.meB 1 Reply Last reply
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              • alienghic@timeloop.cafeA alienghic@timeloop.cafe

                @cwebber

                Look it's an economy free of pesky poor people!

                Just a handful of rich people making numbers increment forever without any negative consequences for them.

                weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                weirdwriter@caneandable.social
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                #7

                @alienghic @cwebber I said this for years, that they actually really want us poor people to quit using the Internet so they can constantly masturbate about how great their numbers are rising, just a bunch of CEOs never interacting with another human on the Internet.

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                • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                  @alienghic @cwebber I said this for years, that they actually really want us poor people to quit using the Internet so they can constantly masturbate about how great their numbers are rising, just a bunch of CEOs never interacting with another human on the Internet.

                  alienghic@timeloop.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @WeirdWriter @cwebber

                  I think they want the poor dead.

                  A redacted person in the Epstein files said this to Epstein.

                  "Also - I've been thinking a lot about that question that you asked bill gates "how do we get rid of poor people
                  as a whole" and I have an answer/ comment regarding that for you ... When can I call you today to discuss
                  this??"

                  (one of the 3 copies of the email found with the query "how do we get rid of poor people as a whole")

                  https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01157206.pdf

                  One billionaire lifestyle can be responsible for millions of tons of carbon dioxide pollution, compared to less than one for the average rural indian.

                  For billionaires to maintain their lifestyle they need to get rid of millions of poor people.

                  theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.socialT tanith@social.artemislena.euT 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • ben@mastodon.lubar.meB ben@mastodon.lubar.me

                    @cwebber $100k of free what

                    ben@mastodon.lubar.meB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @cwebber oh the page that the text about $100k links to doesn't have any mention of cloudflare or that number

                    so it's probably some kind of "alternate fact" generated by the infallible AI

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                    • ben@mastodon.lubar.meB ben@mastodon.lubar.me

                      @cwebber oh the page that the text about $100k links to doesn't have any mention of cloudflare or that number

                      so it's probably some kind of "alternate fact" generated by the infallible AI

                      cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @ben oooh someone take a snapshot on the wayback machine right now

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                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                        @ben oooh someone take a snapshot on the wayback machine right now

                        ben@mastodon.lubar.meB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @cwebber also click the hackernews comments link at the bottom of the article for a surprise

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

                          That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

                          You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

                          What's that? Why's that?

                          Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

                          That first hit! It's free! Hey!

                          I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

                          Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

                          ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @cwebber sorry, what???? $100k of free credits? that's ....... well, any startup that falls for that deserves to fail but that's already true of most startups so it's not a very interesting thing to say

                          samir@mastodon.functional.computerS artemist@social.mildlyfunctional.gayA 2 Replies Last reply
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                          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                            Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

                            That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

                            You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

                            What's that? Why's that?

                            Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

                            That first hit! It's free! Hey!

                            I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

                            Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

                            eramdam@social.erambert.meE This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @cwebber this reminds me of the shit I saw on a fintech company’s careers page the other day lol

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                            • ben@mastodon.lubar.meB ben@mastodon.lubar.me

                              @cwebber also click the hackernews comments link at the bottom of the article for a surprise

                              cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @ben lmao

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                              • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                                @cwebber sorry, what???? $100k of free credits? that's ....... well, any startup that falls for that deserves to fail but that's already true of most startups so it's not a very interesting thing to say

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                                @ireneista @cwebber IMO it sounds quite good for something that needs finite compute, like a research project, though.

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                                • samir@mastodon.functional.computerS samir@mastodon.functional.computer

                                  @ireneista @cwebber IMO it sounds quite good for something that needs finite compute, like a research project, though.

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                                  @samir @cwebber yeah we have definitely seen academics successfully take advantage of free samples in other areas, hah. there's an art to it.

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                                  • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                                    @samir @cwebber yeah we have definitely seen academics successfully take advantage of free samples in other areas, hah. there's an art to it.

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                                    #17

                                    @samir @cwebber there's an important mismatch between the needs of academics and startups which we think causes sales teams to fall for that stuff

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                                    • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                                      @samir @cwebber there's an important mismatch between the needs of academics and startups which we think causes sales teams to fall for that stuff

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                                      @samir @cwebber like for a business, the assumption is that if you find something worth doing at all, it will drive revenue for you on an ongoing basis, so you'll be motivated to pay to keep doing it

                                      and that isn't how grants work at all

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                                      • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                                        @cwebber sorry, what???? $100k of free credits? that's ....... well, any startup that falls for that deserves to fail but that's already true of most startups so it's not a very interesting thing to say

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                                        @ireneista @cwebber i wonder how efficiently one can turn many of those giant startup credits directly into money. they probably try to detect mining

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                                        • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                                          @samir @cwebber like for a business, the assumption is that if you find something worth doing at all, it will drive revenue for you on an ongoing basis, so you'll be motivated to pay to keep doing it

                                          and that isn't how grants work at all

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                                          @samir @cwebber we don't condone taking advantage like that, but we don't know that we really blame academics for it, either, heh

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