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Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

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  • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

    @cwebber sorry, what???? $100k of free credits? that's ....... well, any startup that falls for that deserves to fail but that's already true of most startups so it's not a very interesting thing to say

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    @ireneista @cwebber IMO it sounds quite good for something that needs finite compute, like a research project, though.

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    • samir@mastodon.functional.computerS samir@mastodon.functional.computer

      @ireneista @cwebber IMO it sounds quite good for something that needs finite compute, like a research project, though.

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      @samir @cwebber yeah we have definitely seen academics successfully take advantage of free samples in other areas, hah. there's an art to it.

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      • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

        @samir @cwebber yeah we have definitely seen academics successfully take advantage of free samples in other areas, hah. there's an art to it.

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        @samir @cwebber there's an important mismatch between the needs of academics and startups which we think causes sales teams to fall for that stuff

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        • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

          @samir @cwebber there's an important mismatch between the needs of academics and startups which we think causes sales teams to fall for that stuff

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          #18

          @samir @cwebber like for a business, the assumption is that if you find something worth doing at all, it will drive revenue for you on an ongoing basis, so you'll be motivated to pay to keep doing it

          and that isn't how grants work at all

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          • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

            @cwebber sorry, what???? $100k of free credits? that's ....... well, any startup that falls for that deserves to fail but that's already true of most startups so it's not a very interesting thing to say

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            @ireneista @cwebber i wonder how efficiently one can turn many of those giant startup credits directly into money. they probably try to detect mining

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            • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

              @samir @cwebber like for a business, the assumption is that if you find something worth doing at all, it will drive revenue for you on an ongoing basis, so you'll be motivated to pay to keep doing it

              and that isn't how grants work at all

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              @samir @cwebber we don't condone taking advantage like that, but we don't know that we really blame academics for it, either, heh

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              • artemist@social.mildlyfunctional.gayA artemist@social.mildlyfunctional.gay

                @ireneista @cwebber i wonder how efficiently one can turn many of those giant startup credits directly into money. they probably try to detect mining

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                #21

                @artemist @cwebber alas the most efficient use is probably spam 😞

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                • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                  @artemist @cwebber alas the most efficient use is probably spam 😞

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                  @ireneista @cwebber true, it's just that mining is legal and doesn't require finding customers.

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                  • artemist@social.mildlyfunctional.gayA artemist@social.mildlyfunctional.gay

                    @ireneista @cwebber true, it's just that mining is legal and doesn't require finding customers.

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                    #23

                    @artemist @cwebber yeah

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                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                      Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

                      That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

                      You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

                      What's that? Why's that?

                      Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

                      That first hit! It's free! Hey!

                      I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

                      Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

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                      #24

                      @cwebber uh oh

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                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                        Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

                        That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

                        You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

                        What's that? Why's that?

                        Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

                        That first hit! It's free! Hey!

                        I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

                        Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

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                        #25

                        @cwebber

                        As if the Internet wasn't overflowing with AI Slop without this insane bullshit already.

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

                          That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

                          You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

                          What's that? Why's that?

                          Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

                          That first hit! It's free! Hey!

                          I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

                          Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

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                          #26

                          @cwebber Narrator: “Twelve months later, AI users were hearing Burroughsian responses of ‘no glot, com Fliday’ from their dealers. But they needed their fix, so they kept paying. As did their customers. And thus the real Matrix was born.”

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                          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                            @ben oooh someone take a snapshot on the wayback machine right now

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                            @cwebber @ben Sorry, the Ministry of Truth have stopped news sources from supplying the Wayback Machine (which, by the way, is a service of the non-profit Internet Archive) with feeds. F**k capitalism.

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                            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                              Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

                              That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

                              You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

                              What's that? Why's that?

                              Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

                              That first hit! It's free! Hey!

                              I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

                              Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

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                              @cwebber Someone here that can write a tool to create cloudflare accounts and use it to DDOS cloudflare at Layer 7 with bullshit configuration and API load?

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                              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

                                That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

                                You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

                                What's that? Why's that?

                                Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

                                That first hit! It's free! Hey!

                                I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

                                Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

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                                @cwebber Smart, in the sense that they are selling shovels in the dumb-shit gold rush, and they're even letting you finance it with some other suckers money!

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                                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                  Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

                                  That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

                                  You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

                                  What's that? Why's that?

                                  Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

                                  That first hit! It's free! Hey!

                                  I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

                                  Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

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                                  @cwebber Well, it was nice but I am off to live in the woods now.

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                                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                    Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

                                    That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

                                    You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

                                    What's that? Why's that?

                                    Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

                                    That first hit! It's free! Hey!

                                    I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

                                    Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

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                                    @cwebber will there be hours or minutes before cataclysmic oops?

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                                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                      Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

                                      That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

                                      You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

                                      What's that? Why's that?

                                      Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

                                      That first hit! It's free! Hey!

                                      I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

                                      Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

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                                      @cwebber This isn't so much a defense of it, but the built in budgets are a pretty nice safeguard for those of us tasked with building "chat bot for ___" demos that have to be deployed to semi-live staging environments so our clients can try them out.

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                                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                        Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

                                        That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

                                        You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

                                        What's that? Why's that?

                                        Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

                                        That first hit! It's free! Hey!

                                        I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

                                        Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

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                                        @cwebber Retarded trade-based retard, retarding about retarded trade-based retarded society, about how it is retarding...
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                                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                          Cloudflare continues to push the worst shit combination of centralization of the internet and genAI bullshit but congratulations, they've hit a new combo so bad I didn't even consider it possible https://blog.cloudflare.com/agents-stripe-projects/

                                          That's right! Your agents can now provision servers, spend money, and do everything for you!

                                          You don't even need to hand them a credit card!

                                          What's that? Why's that?

                                          Because they've teamed up with Stripe! Why yes, if you've signed up with Stripe Atlas (don't "shrug" this Atlas off, friends!), which is Stripe's "launch a startup for you" company-to-make-companies, they'll give you $100k of FREE credits!!!

                                          That first hit! It's free! Hey!

                                          I bet all the future hits will be too, right? And uh, who will be left holding that bill after you've established this nice dependency?

                                          Vibe coding? That's nothing! Time to go all in on Vibe Founding!

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                                          @cwebber AI bolted to a payments gateway?

                                          I'd be lying if I didn't say that I'm a little bit jealous that I didn't come up with this evil plan.

                                          That evil lair in the island won't fund itself!

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