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  • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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    Sooo question on age restriction on Apple devices.

    Non-age-verified people will get blocklist messages on any 18+ website on, right? This also happens if you have custom DNS, DoH/DoT, or VPN with DNS resolution on the other end...

    So Apple intercepts the DNS request, checks against their blocklists before anything else happens?

    josh@hactivedirectory.comJ fennix@infosec.spaceF kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kkarhan@jorts.horseK spartan_1986@infosec.exchangeS 6 Replies Last reply
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    • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

      Sooo question on age restriction on Apple devices.

      Non-age-verified people will get blocklist messages on any 18+ website on, right? This also happens if you have custom DNS, DoH/DoT, or VPN with DNS resolution on the other end...

      So Apple intercepts the DNS request, checks against their blocklists before anything else happens?

      josh@hactivedirectory.comJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @SecurityWriter Following this thread

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      • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

        Sooo question on age restriction on Apple devices.

        Non-age-verified people will get blocklist messages on any 18+ website on, right? This also happens if you have custom DNS, DoH/DoT, or VPN with DNS resolution on the other end...

        So Apple intercepts the DNS request, checks against their blocklists before anything else happens?

        fennix@infosec.spaceF This user is from outside of this forum
        fennix@infosec.spaceF This user is from outside of this forum
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        @SecurityWriter

        I have no special knowledge of how Apple's doing things but ultimately apps default to the OS supplied method of name resolution, so the concept of interception doesn't really apply.

        Now, if the app uses special techniques to bypass local DNS resolution for the app itself, that'd be one thing. I dunno if many iOS apps do that but I do know a handful of Android apps which do.

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        • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

          Sooo question on age restriction on Apple devices.

          Non-age-verified people will get blocklist messages on any 18+ website on, right? This also happens if you have custom DNS, DoH/DoT, or VPN with DNS resolution on the other end...

          So Apple intercepts the DNS request, checks against their blocklists before anything else happens?

          kierkegaanks@beige.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
          kierkegaanks@beige.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
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          @SecurityWriter sounds like something they could do and charge you for

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          • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

            Sooo question on age restriction on Apple devices.

            Non-age-verified people will get blocklist messages on any 18+ website on, right? This also happens if you have custom DNS, DoH/DoT, or VPN with DNS resolution on the other end...

            So Apple intercepts the DNS request, checks against their blocklists before anything else happens?

            kkarhan@jorts.horseK This user is from outside of this forum
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            @SecurityWriter yet another reason to nit use #Apple devices, if their willingness to integrate #Govware-#Backdoors in the "P.R." #China and hosting #Cyberfascists #Spyware like #Absher in #KSA wasn't already…

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            • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

              Sooo question on age restriction on Apple devices.

              Non-age-verified people will get blocklist messages on any 18+ website on, right? This also happens if you have custom DNS, DoH/DoT, or VPN with DNS resolution on the other end...

              So Apple intercepts the DNS request, checks against their blocklists before anything else happens?

              spartan_1986@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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              @SecurityWriter I block all DNS at the packet level on my router. See, I can do packet inspection too. But if they have a home grown DNS protocol all their own would love to read about it. Then I’ll block that too.

              Not sure it correlates, but my WiFi only iPad did an age thing this weekend when I did my daily Fallout Shelter thing. Wonder if those packet logs are still available… Anyway, besides my Wi-Fi subnet blocking external DNS requests, the iPad has NextDNS running. Are they just ignoring that whenever they want now?

              I know my LG TV has hard wired DNS. That’s why it’s banished to the IoT subnet of shame. That subnet is very canonical.

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              • securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS securitywriter@infosec.exchange

                Sooo question on age restriction on Apple devices.

                Non-age-verified people will get blocklist messages on any 18+ website on, right? This also happens if you have custom DNS, DoH/DoT, or VPN with DNS resolution on the other end...

                So Apple intercepts the DNS request, checks against their blocklists before anything else happens?

                ridogi@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                @SecurityWriter well currently using DoH along with Private Relay causes it to do 2 lookups for each request, so age restriction could be built similar to Private Relay.

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                • ridogi@mastodon.socialR ridogi@mastodon.social

                  @SecurityWriter well currently using DoH along with Private Relay causes it to do 2 lookups for each request, so age restriction could be built similar to Private Relay.

                  securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @ridogi which effectively means Apple have backdoored our DNS.

                  Every query leaks your request elsewhere, in an unknown location.

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