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I just don't really get how people can casually eat meat.

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    I just don't really get how people can casually eat meat. It just makes me really sad to think about. And because I know I'm in the minority, I just really try not to think about it.
    #Vegan

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      I just don't really get how people can casually eat meat. It just makes me really sad to think about. And because I know I'm in the minority, I just really try not to think about it.
      #Vegan

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      Listening to a horror youtuber talking about how one of the most horrific books he's ever read is basically what if we raised people as meat and goes through what the meat industry does now but it's people instead of cows; and like, yeah, it's fucked. That's why I stopped eating meat. Maybe there is a way to eat meat in an ethical way, but it doesn't exist at scale right now, so why does it matter. #vegan

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        @CordiallyChloe Sure.

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          Listening to a horror youtuber talking about how one of the most horrific books he's ever read is basically what if we raised people as meat and goes through what the meat industry does now but it's people instead of cows; and like, yeah, it's fucked. That's why I stopped eating meat. Maybe there is a way to eat meat in an ethical way, but it doesn't exist at scale right now, so why does it matter. #vegan

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          Bring back the lesbianism/feminism that was closely intertwined with vegetarianism and led to the opening of queer cafes that only serve vegan/vegetarian food. That's the whole reason most good vegan spots are queer as hell.

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            Listening to a horror youtuber talking about how one of the most horrific books he's ever read is basically what if we raised people as meat and goes through what the meat industry does now but it's people instead of cows; and like, yeah, it's fucked. That's why I stopped eating meat. Maybe there is a way to eat meat in an ethical way, but it doesn't exist at scale right now, so why does it matter. #vegan

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            @itzyg imo - there isn't. Meat is the result of murder, always. Well, okay, the lab-produced meat... I don't know. Maybe? But what for actually? Maybe if someone really can't, by health reasons, eat plant proteins?

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              @CordiallyChloe I just don't think it's very hard. Like, I just make sure I have something I can eat before I go somewhere. Most places have vegan options, and all of my friends make sure there's vegan food when they invite us. And my diet got much more varied and interesting after I went vegan. I don't feel at all like veganism as deprived me of anything significant because of how much I've gained. It very much sounds like justifying Omelas.

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                @CordiallyChloe I just don't think it's very hard. Like, I just make sure I have something I can eat before I go somewhere. Most places have vegan options, and all of my friends make sure there's vegan food when they invite us. And my diet got much more varied and interesting after I went vegan. I don't feel at all like veganism as deprived me of anything significant because of how much I've gained. It very much sounds like justifying Omelas.

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                @CordiallyChloe Idk, I don't think someone is a bad person for eating meat. And I get that most people just don't think about the far reaching impacts of it, and there's so much going on it's just one more thing. It just kinda makes me sad.

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                  Yeah, it's just not going to be an effective technique to tell people to give up their whole lifetime of favorite foods out of some moral obligation. To be quite honest, I struggle with finding vegan recipes that I genuinely enjoy and would order over a meal that contains meat.

                  What's likely a better strategy in trying to convince people is less to scold them against meat eating entirely, and to simply encourage them to replace one meal a week with something vegetarian or vegan. Or increase portion sizes of vegetables and decrease sizes of meat in a meal. I.e. have a 4 oz steak plus a larger baked potato rather than an 8 oz steak. It's a lot easier to replace one meal per week than go cold turkey.
                  @CordiallyChloe @itzyg

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