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  3. Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

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  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    julianoliver@mastodon.social
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    #29

    @lightweight Thanks again Dave, I'm going to have some homework today adding all these beaut new domains

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    • lazzarello@mastodon.teamnerds.coolL lazzarello@mastodon.teamnerds.cool

      @JulianOliver im down. What's the first step?

      julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      julianoliver@mastodon.social
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      #30

      @lazzarello

      Thanks for joining in!

      If you could just add these two records for the domain you wish to gift, and then let me know the domain (either DM or public) once done 🙂

      A: 95.216.76.85
      AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

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      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

        Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

        If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

        Link Preview Image
        Science is Poetry

        favicon

        (julianoliver.com)

        #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

        julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        julianoliver@mastodon.social
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        #31

        A bit over half a million page reads a day by crawlers rn. Just to say the server is doing some good work.

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        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

          Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

          If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

          Link Preview Image
          Science is Poetry

          favicon

          (julianoliver.com)

          #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

          theholypumpkin@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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          theholypumpkin@mastodon.social
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          #32

          @JulianOliver looking through the replies I'll happily point a subdomain to the provided A-Record my old e-mail address domain is just barely used for the few accounts which don't allow me to change the address.

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          • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

            Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

            If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

            Link Preview Image
            Science is Poetry

            favicon

            (julianoliver.com)

            #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

            mro@digitalcourage.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
            mro@digitalcourage.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
            mro@digitalcourage.social
            wrote last edited by
            #33

            Hi @JulianOliver,
            pick subdomains of mro1.de and tell me where to point the DNS.

            Edit: just saw the DNS records above, I will set up some and follow up here later today.

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            • mro@digitalcourage.socialM mro@digitalcourage.social

              Hi @JulianOliver,
              pick subdomains of mro1.de and tell me where to point the DNS.

              Edit: just saw the DNS records above, I will set up some and follow up here later today.

              julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              julianoliver@mastodon.social
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              #34

              @mro

              How about 'carrot'?

              A: 95.216.76.85
              AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

              Thanks a lot!

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              • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                @narthur For now they would all share the same IP.

                Both domain and IP are naturally able to be filtered at the crawler end, but as numerous sites can be hosted behind one IP, it is my belief that they will drop a domain first.

                Further, it's my hope to have instances of the project running on other dedicated hosts down the road.

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                monochrome@social.critica.li
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                #35

                @JulianOliver @narthur It seems to me that it would be fairly easy for them to consider that the content is junk and to treat accordingly everything coming from the same IPs. They probably keep a log of where the content used to train the LLMs is coming from (maybe with some kind of hash / pseudonymous maneer), and likely have ways to reject content from the same server IF they detect a problem from several domains linked to this server. IMO a bunch of reverse proxies / various IPs could help : they might be dumb and make it easy to polute their dataset, but probably aren't.

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                • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                  Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                  If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                  Link Preview Image
                  Science is Poetry

                  favicon

                  (julianoliver.com)

                  #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

                  themadhatter@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  themadhatter@mastodon.social
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                  #36

                  @JulianOliver i have some unused. I'll let them point at A/AAAA you already mentioned. Do you need to know the exact domains?

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                  • themadhatter@mastodon.socialT themadhatter@mastodon.social

                    @JulianOliver i have some unused. I'll let them point at A/AAAA you already mentioned. Do you need to know the exact domains?

                    julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    julianoliver@mastodon.social
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                    #37

                    @themadhatter Thank you! Yes knowing the domains would be needed. If you don't want the world to know they are yours, you can DM.

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                    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                      @themadhatter Thank you! Yes knowing the domains would be needed. If you don't want the world to know they are yours, you can DM.

                      themadhatter@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      themadhatter@mastodon.social
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                      #38

                      @JulianOliver will send you a send you a DM when ready.

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                      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                        Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                        If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                        Link Preview Image
                        Science is Poetry

                        favicon

                        (julianoliver.com)

                        #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

                        korkeala@hachyderm.ioK This user is from outside of this forum
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                        korkeala@hachyderm.io
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                        #39

                        @JulianOliver I set one .fi domain for this which was unused I was supposed to delete it already.

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                        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                          A bit over half a million page reads a day by crawlers rn. Just to say the server is doing some good work.

                          julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          julianoliver@mastodon.social
                          wrote last edited by
                          #40

                          Thanks all for the fine domains! I've decided to spin up a new VM and do all the site configs and TLS chain for them at once - more efficient, less prone to error. I will get onto that on my tomorrow and report back here.

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                          • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                            Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

                            Link Preview Image
                            Science is Poetry

                            favicon

                            (julianoliver.com)

                            The page may grow a bit. Just wanted to get it out the door.

                            #AI #bigtech

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                            mediengruppe_bitnik@tldr.nettime.org
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                            #41

                            @JulianOliver also ❤ the web design. gotta serve the bots something nice.

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                            • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                              @mro

                              How about 'carrot'?

                              A: 95.216.76.85
                              AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

                              Thanks a lot!

                              mro@digitalcourage.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              mro@digitalcourage.social
                              wrote last edited by
                              #42

                              Hi @JulianOliver,
                              carrot.mro1.de and
                              car.rot.mro1.de and
                              ca.rr.ot.mro1.de

                              The pleasure is all mine.

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                              • mro@digitalcourage.socialM mro@digitalcourage.social

                                Hi @JulianOliver,
                                carrot.mro1.de and
                                car.rot.mro1.de and
                                ca.rr.ot.mro1.de

                                The pleasure is all mine.

                                julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                julianoliver@mastodon.social
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                                #43

                                @mro Amazing, thank you! I'll have an update tomorrow once all setup.

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                                • korkeala@hachyderm.ioK korkeala@hachyderm.io

                                  @JulianOliver I set one .fi domain for this which was unused I was supposed to delete it already.

                                  julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  julianoliver@mastodon.social
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                                  #44

                                  @korkeala Thank you! Please share via DM so I can add it to the list.

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                                  • M monochrome@social.critica.li

                                    @JulianOliver @narthur It seems to me that it would be fairly easy for them to consider that the content is junk and to treat accordingly everything coming from the same IPs. They probably keep a log of where the content used to train the LLMs is coming from (maybe with some kind of hash / pseudonymous maneer), and likely have ways to reject content from the same server IF they detect a problem from several domains linked to this server. IMO a bunch of reverse proxies / various IPs could help : they might be dumb and make it easy to polute their dataset, but probably aren't.

                                    julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    julianoliver@mastodon.social
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                                    @monochrome @narthur

                                    I am looking to populate the tarpit to other hosts, but for now the bots just keep chewing, and have been for days at one end-point.

                                    I suspect there are so many crawlers spawned, and that they have so much in the way of resources at hand to do this scraping, that it is largely automated with little oversight.

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                                    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                      Thanks all for the fine domains! I've decided to spin up a new VM and do all the site configs and TLS chain for them at once - more efficient, less prone to error. I will get onto that on my tomorrow and report back here.

                                      julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      julianoliver@mastodon.social
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                                      #46

                                      Thanks for all the domain donations, a beautiful thing!

                                      Listed on the landing page:

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                                      SEANCE IS POTTERY

                                      favicon

                                      (scienceispoetry.net)

                                      And copied into this post:

                                      https://carrot.mro1.de
                                      https://car.rot.mro1.de
                                      https://ca.rr.ot.mro1.de
                                      https://sygrovelaw.co.nz
                                      https://wholesaletechnology.co.nz
                                      https://goldenageproductions.co.nz
                                      https://kginno.eu
                                      https://outgoing.nz
                                      https://unbreak.nz
                                      https://poetry.rainskit.com
                                      https://poetry.narthur.com
                                      https://madhattercorp.com
                                      https://sustainable-collective.org
                                      https://sustainable-collective.de
                                      https://c0-cloud.de

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                                      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                        Thanks for all the domain donations, a beautiful thing!

                                        Listed on the landing page:

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        SEANCE IS POTTERY

                                        favicon

                                        (scienceispoetry.net)

                                        And copied into this post:

                                        https://carrot.mro1.de
                                        https://car.rot.mro1.de
                                        https://ca.rr.ot.mro1.de
                                        https://sygrovelaw.co.nz
                                        https://wholesaletechnology.co.nz
                                        https://goldenageproductions.co.nz
                                        https://kginno.eu
                                        https://outgoing.nz
                                        https://unbreak.nz
                                        https://poetry.rainskit.com
                                        https://poetry.narthur.com
                                        https://madhattercorp.com
                                        https://sustainable-collective.org
                                        https://sustainable-collective.de
                                        https://c0-cloud.de

                                        julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        julianoliver@mastodon.social
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                                        #47

                                        I have only linked them here and on the landing page, and already it's gone nuts.

                                        These are *solely* the new domains you've donated, all in one log. These do not pertain to the project domain.

                                        julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafeP 2 Replies Last reply
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                                        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                          I have only linked them here and on the landing page, and already it's gone nuts.

                                          These are *solely* the new domains you've donated, all in one log. These do not pertain to the project domain.

                                          julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          julianoliver@mastodon.social
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                                          #48

                                          I've started to harvest a list of AI crawler endpoint addrs for your blacklisting pleasure.

                                          I'll try to keep it updated. I've been fastidious with ensuring I'm only pulling those related to the known user agent, so as not to have any false positives

                                          https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt

                                          It is at the same path for all contributed domains.

                                          For instance:

                                          https://carrot.mro1.de/files/parasites.txt

                                          netopwibby@social.coopN julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ mro@digitalcourage.socialM jasperbuma@mstdn.socialJ 4 Replies Last reply
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