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Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

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  • H hydroxycotton@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    Anecdote:

    I was recently browsing an auto listing app for a used EV as I'm thinking about switching to an EV from my ICE hatchback, and the market near me is absolutely flooded with Teslas, primary model 3s. And it's not just "old" ones either. Tons of 2020-2024 models as well.

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    systemdisc@piefed.world
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    Model 3s are some of the best vehicles ever made - extremely safe and powerful with great handling. Also, extremely low cost long term. Buying used is totally fine. Also there’s literally nothing we can do as consumers to affect Elon. Just treat the company as separate from him.

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    • E eximius@lemmy.world

      Isn't that like 50k x 20k$ (rough costs estimate) = 1B$ of slowly realizing losses?

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      thomaswilliams@lemmy.world
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      Its not very much, Chrysler had over a million vehicles in stock 18 months ago.

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        formfiller@lemmy.world
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        Hold the line

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          willdrick@lemmy.world
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          Luckily there are a lot of nice EVs from better brands!

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          • T thomaswilliams@lemmy.world

            Its not very much, Chrysler had over a million vehicles in stock 18 months ago.

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            corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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            Noe I am curious how much quicker batteries degrade being idle than ICE engines.

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            • N nikkidimes@lemmy.world

              The problem is the door locks are electric, so if the car loses low voltage power, the buttons to open the doors no longer work. Worse yet, the Model 3 only has emergency physical latches in the front seats, so good luck in the back, kids.

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              savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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              GM has been doing this for over 15 years.

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              • P phutatorius@lemmy.zip

                GM did the same thing 2008 before it all collapsed.

                Along with financial chicanery, the only part of GM that was profitable was GMAC. Their shitty cars are loss-leaders for a predatory finance operation.

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                savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                Tesla in Canada has parking lots full of cars they registered to grab and incentive, then the CDN government told them to fuck off. Meanwhile, the cars just sit and rot. Tesla is trying to sue, but they don't stand a chance.

                Tesla is already half what it was in 2024. it will be dead as a car company by end of 2027, about the time multiple internet satellites will have been launched to kill starlink.

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                • N nikkidimes@lemmy.world

                  To be fair, we will have full self driving by the end of the year, according to Elon every single year for the last decade.

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                  savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                  Now we will have robots by the end of the year.

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                  • J justifier@lemmy.world

                    Surpass Tesla in software?

                    Most of us want less software not more

                    That's why everyone is so hyped about Slate. Less of this garbage is a paid feature these days.

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                    savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                    That’s why everyone is so hyped about Slate.

                    No one is hyped about Slate. Europe has better EVs for less already.

                    file Slate along with:

                    Canoo

                    Bollinger

                    Aptera

                    Nikola

                    Telo

                    and another dozen bullshit US EV companies.

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                    • J justifier@lemmy.world

                      Slate is a good niche, its range is fine for the purpose its supposed to fill

                      Imagine a fleet of them for a lawncare business paired with a 30-42" standup electric mower rig

                      Cost of operations would be dittly squat, could be further buffered with solar and replacememt parts dirt cheap. Roi would be extremely quick and then it'd be pure profits

                      People are already doing that with used Teslas pulling trailers (yeah its funny to see, but the people doing it have shown their numbers and its pretty nuts)

                      Whats not fine about the Slate is no awd version. On an EV it's a minimal endeavor to make that work so there's really no excuse

                      Having experienced awd I will never personally own another vehicle without it if I have a choice. Especially a truck. My driving conditions are way too harsh to not have it

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                      savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                      Whats not fine about the Slate is no awd version. On an EV it’s a minimal endeavor to make that work so there’s really no excuse

                      AWD is only a thing in stupid vehicle designs where they put all the weight up front, and the drive wheels at the back.

                      An EV truck has proper weight distribution, AWD would offer no advantage, just add weight and cost more.

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                      • J justifier@lemmy.world

                        Not talking about towing

                        Talking about a bedspace only, 1-2 man crew setup

                        A Bobcat ZS4000 Stand-On Mower 48″ is a 64" long mower for example, so it should juuuust fit in there, but to be safe I mentioned smaller, though personally if I were to do something like this I'd want a greenworks electric, costs half as much as the truck

                        For sure, you'd see a range drop, but it shouldn't be anywhere near as severe as pulling a trailer

                        A small standon, a ramp to get it on and off the truck, a rack with a trimmer, edger, hedger, blower, pruner, mini chainsaw, maybe a delta powerbank or gas generator to recharge the tools as you drive about or they're in standby

                        I'd expect a drop in range about 25-30% with that but not as severe as a pull behind trailer

                        ~130-150 miles of range is doable if you plan the route and cluster clients, which any Semi-competent business owner who could afford a fleet of these would be capable of doing or paying someone to manage the routes

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                        savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                        So tow a small trailer behind a Prius

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                        • S suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world
                          1. Tesla is a car company
                          2. Tesla is a battery company
                          3. Tesla is a robot company <---- you are here
                          4. Tesla is a company

                          One can hope at least

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                          savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                          Tesla is a robot company <---- you are here

                          2028: Florida man's penis burned off in Tesla sexbot.

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                          • systemdisc@piefed.worldS systemdisc@piefed.world

                            Model 3s are some of the best vehicles ever made - extremely safe and powerful with great handling. Also, extremely low cost long term. Buying used is totally fine. Also there’s literally nothing we can do as consumers to affect Elon. Just treat the company as separate from him.

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                            savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                            Model 3s are some of the best vehicles ever made

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                            • extremely safe and powerful with great handling.

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                            • S solrize@lemmy.ml

                              I wouldn't call them super cheap though they depreciate a lot from the new prices. Lots of quality ICE cars of similar age at lower prices, i.e. they are still expensive cars.

                              You can get fantastically good deals on used Fiskers. The company is bankrupt but there's a lively community of owners and getting stuff like repair parts isn't hard. I'm slightly tempted but only slightly. What I really want is an EV conversion for an old cargo van, so it would have very few computers inside.

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                              savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                              You can get fantastically good deals on used Fiskers.

                              you are a endless pool of bad advice.

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                              • J jalfred_prurock@lemmy.today

                                What about the idea of the battery degrading or getting worn out or whatever? I've never owned one and I have sort of zero concept of that. I think they're warranty covers through 150k or something like that?

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                                savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                                Battery is not the problem, it's the flimsy gadgetry in the rest of the car, and the motors.

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                                • paranoidfactoid@lemmy.worldP paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world

                                  I own a Honda Fit. It's small, is reasonably petrol efficient, has actual dials and physical knobs for an interface, and needs just basic maintenance to run reliably.

                                  Of course they've been discontinued in Canada.

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                                  savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                                  Blame idiot Canadians who buy pickups instead, not Honda.

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                                  • O oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip

                                    My last car was a Camry, and it was huge compared to what I remember them as (my mom has an 80s one when I was a kid). I've downsized to a Corolla (after I destroyed the Camry whoopsie) now tho.

                                    And I have no idea what those alphabet/number soup cars even are. If they can't get a real name thae they can go extinct. I'm not learning what an e45 is, or a ZQ73 is.

                                    But yeah they have gotten more unwieldy, and that shit needs to stop.

                                    But what I meant to say got lost in my other point, which was my opinion that even given the most safe shape and sizes possible, I think everything but sedans are ugly, just aesthetically speaking. I understand the practical reasons, but they're all ugly.

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                                    savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                                    SUVs are not practical. Hatchbacks or wagon sedans are practical.

                                    SUVs are just big to give the impression of value and to sell to an increasingly obese demographic.

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                                    • ripcord@lemmy.worldR ripcord@lemmy.world

                                      Their Q1 sales were actually up over last year. It's insane.

                                      The same kind of pieces of shit that still use Twitter.

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                                      uenticx@lemmy.world
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                                      They significantly dropped the prices at the dealerships. A model 3 is now like 36k compared to 50+ last year., but I'd rather walk on glass. We bought a Ford Maverick instead.

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                                      • S steve@startrek.website

                                        I will drive a free tesla

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                                        rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social
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                                        I wouldn't even get in that unopenable-emergency-doors death trap.

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                                        • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                                          Blame idiot Canadians who buy pickups instead, not Honda.

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                                          paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world
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                                          Sure wish we were a province of the United States. Then nobody would be buying pickup trucks as passenger vehicles! I mean, who in America has a pickup truck in their driveway?

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