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  3. The first thing that struck me about the MacBook Neo was how much more capable it is than the ASUS Eee PC netbook I bought back in 2008 for around the same price.

The first thing that struck me about the MacBook Neo was how much more capable it is than the ASUS Eee PC netbook I bought back in 2008 for around the same price.

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  • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

    The first thing that struck me about the MacBook Neo was how much more capable it is than the ASUS Eee PC netbook I bought back in 2008 for around the same price.

    Then I remembered that it's been nearly 20 years since 2008. Inflation means that I spent around $950 in today's money on that netbook

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    No regrets btw. That netbook was one of the best computers I’ve ever owned

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    • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

      The first thing that struck me about the MacBook Neo was how much more capable it is than the ASUS Eee PC netbook I bought back in 2008 for around the same price.

      Then I remembered that it's been nearly 20 years since 2008. Inflation means that I spent around $950 in today's money on that netbook

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      Asus Eee PC 1000 (black) review: Asus Eee PC 1000 (black)

      The Asus Eee PC 1000's 10-inch screen walks a fine line between Netbook and regular laptop, but the higher price may drive away value-seeking consumers.

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      @jalefkowit I'm glad to see people make this comparison. I had a lot of love and hope for netbooks. Still do, sorta.

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      • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

        The first thing that struck me about the MacBook Neo was how much more capable it is than the ASUS Eee PC netbook I bought back in 2008 for around the same price.

        Then I remembered that it's been nearly 20 years since 2008. Inflation means that I spent around $950 in today's money on that netbook

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        Asus Eee PC 1000 (black) review: Asus Eee PC 1000 (black)

        The Asus Eee PC 1000's 10-inch screen walks a fine line between Netbook and regular laptop, but the higher price may drive away value-seeking consumers.

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        @jalefkowit https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/damn-small-linux-revived-my-aging-eee-pc-heres-how-to-use-it-to-resurrect-any-old-computer

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        • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

          No regrets btw. That netbook was one of the best computers I’ve ever owned

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          @jalefkowit reckon the MacBook Neo could run Linux?

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          • jackeric@beige.partyJ jackeric@beige.party

            @jalefkowit reckon the MacBook Neo could run Linux?

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            @jackeric The Neo is in a weird place in that regard, because it's running an ARM CPU (Apple's A18), which means it can't run off-the-shelf Intel Linux distributions. But it also can't run the Apple-device-focused Asahi Linux either, because Asahi only supports the newer M-class Apple CPUs.

            There are ARM Linux distributions out there, but they're not really aimed at Apple hardware, so no guarantees one would work on the A18. You'd kind of be on your own

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            • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

              No regrets btw. That netbook was one of the best computers I’ve ever owned

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              That Eee PC netbook was the computer I carried with me to the 2008 Democratic National Convention. I typed notes on it in the press box at Invesco Field as Barack Obama gave his speech accepting the Democratic presidential nomination. So I have a lot of warm fuzzies attached to that little machine

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              • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                No regrets btw. That netbook was one of the best computers I’ve ever owned

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                @jalefkowit I am on board with this take; I had one of those models too. I loved it.

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                • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                  @jackeric The Neo is in a weird place in that regard, because it's running an ARM CPU (Apple's A18), which means it can't run off-the-shelf Intel Linux distributions. But it also can't run the Apple-device-focused Asahi Linux either, because Asahi only supports the newer M-class Apple CPUs.

                  There are ARM Linux distributions out there, but they're not really aimed at Apple hardware, so no guarantees one would work on the A18. You'd kind of be on your own

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                  @jalefkowit @jackeric it's based on the Apple M-series kit (M3 or M4) so if the bootloader is not locked like iPhone, there's a good chance we get Linux

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                  • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                    That Eee PC netbook was the computer I carried with me to the 2008 Democratic National Convention. I typed notes on it in the press box at Invesco Field as Barack Obama gave his speech accepting the Democratic presidential nomination. So I have a lot of warm fuzzies attached to that little machine

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                    @jalefkowit Yeah. I had a Samsung NC10. My first own, new computer. It was tiny, but it opened a door to the world. (Still have it. Still works.)

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                    • balcanquhal@tldr.nettime.orgB balcanquhal@tldr.nettime.org

                      @jalefkowit @jackeric it's based on the Apple M-series kit (M3 or M4) so if the bootloader is not locked like iPhone, there's a good chance we get Linux

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                      @balcanquhal @jackeric I'd love to see it!

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                      • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                        That Eee PC netbook was the computer I carried with me to the 2008 Democratic National Convention. I typed notes on it in the press box at Invesco Field as Barack Obama gave his speech accepting the Democratic presidential nomination. So I have a lot of warm fuzzies attached to that little machine

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                        In fact it's still in my closet. If I can find the power supply I might try booting it up sometime

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                        • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                          The first thing that struck me about the MacBook Neo was how much more capable it is than the ASUS Eee PC netbook I bought back in 2008 for around the same price.

                          Then I remembered that it's been nearly 20 years since 2008. Inflation means that I spent around $950 in today's money on that netbook

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                          Asus Eee PC 1000 (black) review: Asus Eee PC 1000 (black)

                          The Asus Eee PC 1000's 10-inch screen walks a fine line between Netbook and regular laptop, but the higher price may drive away value-seeking consumers.

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                          @jalefkowit

                          LONG before the iPad, or the MacBook Air ever came through the design studios at Apple Inc. there was teh Netbook revolution. Brought on by the lower end Ultra-low power Intel CPUs, (the Atom, a down-clocked, down-cached, die-shrunk Celeron). They all ran great on WinXP, but had to increment up a bit when Win7 hit. I know it was many people's "second computer" or the one they used while watching TeeVee 👍

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                          • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                            The first thing that struck me about the MacBook Neo was how much more capable it is than the ASUS Eee PC netbook I bought back in 2008 for around the same price.

                            Then I remembered that it's been nearly 20 years since 2008. Inflation means that I spent around $950 in today's money on that netbook

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                            Asus Eee PC 1000 (black) review: Asus Eee PC 1000 (black)

                            The Asus Eee PC 1000's 10-inch screen walks a fine line between Netbook and regular laptop, but the higher price may drive away value-seeking consumers.

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                            @jalefkowit I have a hard time with Apple hardware. It's always so expensive, even when it's cheap. I would have a hard time recommending a $599 computer with only 8GB of RAM today when many vendors will sell you a 16GB machine for the same price. I know the Apple is better hardware, better built, slightly faster CPU, longer battery life, arguably better OS, etc. But twice the RAM is a huge lever. You can run anything with 16GB, a lot of current gen software simply won't run well in 8GB.

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                              @jalefkowit I have a hard time with Apple hardware. It's always so expensive, even when it's cheap. I would have a hard time recommending a $599 computer with only 8GB of RAM today when many vendors will sell you a 16GB machine for the same price. I know the Apple is better hardware, better built, slightly faster CPU, longer battery life, arguably better OS, etc. But twice the RAM is a huge lever. You can run anything with 16GB, a lot of current gen software simply won't run well in 8GB.

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                              @jalefkowit on literally every metric, the Apple is better. But, it's been hobbled by a tiny amount of RAM. That's true of all affordable Apple products, actually.

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                              • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                                In fact it's still in my closet. If I can find the power supply I might try booting it up sometime

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                                Let's see how the CPU in my old netbook compares to the one in a MacBook Neo... oh god. Oh no

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                                • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                                  Let's see how the CPU in my old netbook compares to the one in a MacBook Neo... oh god. Oh no

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                                  @jalefkowit tbf those things were underpowered already when they were released...

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                                    @jalefkowit tbf those things were underpowered already when they were released...

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                                    @gergolippai And yet it never felt slow to me at the time!

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                                      @gergolippai And yet it never felt slow to me at the time!

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                                      @jalefkowit ooh it did to me (i had the same but with an MSI logo). it must have been my then-obsession with vanilla ubuntu (my company was a certified support partner in my country), my current manjaro setup would have run on it happily.

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                                      • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                                        Let's see how the CPU in my old netbook compares to the one in a MacBook Neo... oh god. Oh no

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                                        @jalefkowit nuclear bomb vs coughing baby

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                                        • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                                          Let's see how the CPU in my old netbook compares to the one in a MacBook Neo... oh god. Oh no

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                                          (I should probably here that despite the Atom being a slow CPU even by the standards of the time, my netbook never felt appreciably slow in actual use. It's been that long since the CPU was the performance bottleneck in most operations)

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