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Don't use LLM generated code in your projects yet!

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  • martyfouts@mastodon.onlineM martyfouts@mastodon.online

    @cwebber The UK has a third option: the person operating the AI is the author and the output is copyrighted. Would not surprise me if the industry lobbies more jurisdictions into similar legislation.

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    @MartyFouts Link to more info on UK case law?

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      Don't use LLM generated code in your projects yet! If for no other reason than that the legal case law is NOT ESTABLISHED YET.

      I know there was the "copyright laundering" thing that went around a lot, but we actually don't know.

      You'll see commenters everywhere on the internet say that "the US Supreme Court ruled that AI generated output is in the public domain". That's misinfo: they *declined to take on* a case from a lower court coming to that conclusion. The US Supreme Court hasn't yet ruled.

      And this hasn't shaken out in an international setting yet either.

      You may be surprised to hear: I actually think it's more dangerous and empowers centralized AI companies even more if it *isn't* the case that AI output is in the public domain (I'll follow up about that), but regardless, right now we just don't know.

      But despite that, I'm STILL saying that you're putting yourself in legally dubious territory right now if you include LLM generated code, for now. We don't know yet.

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      @cwebber I'd be more concerned if someone can make a tool that can prove code came from a specific model but I don't think that's gonna happen either
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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        Don't use LLM generated code in your projects yet! If for no other reason than that the legal case law is NOT ESTABLISHED YET.

        I know there was the "copyright laundering" thing that went around a lot, but we actually don't know.

        You'll see commenters everywhere on the internet say that "the US Supreme Court ruled that AI generated output is in the public domain". That's misinfo: they *declined to take on* a case from a lower court coming to that conclusion. The US Supreme Court hasn't yet ruled.

        And this hasn't shaken out in an international setting yet either.

        You may be surprised to hear: I actually think it's more dangerous and empowers centralized AI companies even more if it *isn't* the case that AI output is in the public domain (I'll follow up about that), but regardless, right now we just don't know.

        But despite that, I'm STILL saying that you're putting yourself in legally dubious territory right now if you include LLM generated code, for now. We don't know yet.

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        @cwebber I can see the future: legal concerns over LLM written code results in people rewriting code by hand to circumvent potential LLM code licence violations.

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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          @MartyFouts Link to more info on UK case law?

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          @cwebber I don’t know of case law but the UK’s Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, Section 9(3) states:

          "In the case of a literary, dramatic, musical or artistic work which is computer-generated, the author shall be taken to be the person by whom the arrangements necessary for the creation of the work are undertaken."

          It’s language any legislature might be lobbied into inserting in their copyright statute.

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