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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

    strokes are high blood pressure so same as heart disease

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    @benroyce @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata strokes are due to blood clots forming and migrating to the brain where the circulatory system becomes to small to pass them so the parts of the brain where the obstruction occurs are starved of oxygen.
    Yes strokes occur more commonly in people with high blood pressure but not exclusively.

    "High blood pressure is the biggest single risk factor for stroke. It plays a part in about half of all strokes."

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    favicon

    (www.stroke.org.uk)

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    • marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM marjolica@social.linux.pizza

      @benroyce @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata strokes are due to blood clots forming and migrating to the brain where the circulatory system becomes to small to pass them so the parts of the brain where the obstruction occurs are starved of oxygen.
      Yes strokes occur more commonly in people with high blood pressure but not exclusively.

      "High blood pressure is the biggest single risk factor for stroke. It plays a part in about half of all strokes."

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      favicon

      (www.stroke.org.uk)

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      @marjolica @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

      oh yeah

      thank you for the correction

      a scary medical scenario is quickly figuring out if it is an ischemic or hemorrhagic stroke (blockage or bleeding)

      and often the treatment for each makes things worse if they diagnose the wrong one

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      • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

        What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

        by @ourworldindata

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        @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

        A Fox News column would have a 66% "wokeness" band. 🙄

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        • trifolium@c.imT trifolium@c.im

          @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

          How very clever. You are comparing apples to herrings.

          If somebody dies from illness in their own or hospital bed, it very seldom is news. Usually no need to be.

          If somebody is killed in a terrorism act or murdered, it normally is news. And for a reason.

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          @Trifolium

          The point is not that the bias isn't understandable. The point is the impact of the disproportionate coverage.

          @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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          • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

            What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

            by @ourworldindata

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            #60

            @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
            No reports (or data collection?) for climate change - floods, fires, heat stroke, cold. Watch this space!

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            • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

              What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

              by @ourworldindata

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              @infobeautiful @ourworldindata https://climatejustice.social/@wavesculptor/116094259926360074

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              • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                by @ourworldindata

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                @infobeautiful @ourworldindata y are whites easily affected by heart disease and strokes the last time I took a trip to Africa i saw someone with heart diseases it was called an abomination there

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                • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                  What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                  by @ourworldindata

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                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@filiph/115332196437726090

                  @infobeautiful please edit your post to include the source page.

                  The source was in this post from @filiph :

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                  • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                    What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                    by @ourworldindata

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                    @infobeautiful @ourworldindata Can you differentiate between "domestic homicide" and "femicide" when discussing homicide offenses? Or is femicide not a recognized crime in the US?

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                      i don't know but i would say that some of those COVID deaths should be classified as homicide or suicide

                      people who died of COVID who did everything right but were betrayed by a MAGA moron who introduced the disease into their life and killed them

                      and MAGA morons who essentially committed suicide by COVID because they took no precautions and imagined their prideful ignorance was a magic shield, or just didn't care if they died

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                      @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
                      "and imagined their prideful ignorance was a magic shield"
                      Incredibile.

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                      • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                        What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

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                        @infobeautiful 1% of the people getting 60% of the attention, you say?

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                        • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                          What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

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                          @infobeautiful @ourworldindata SMFH

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                          • mloxton@med-mastodon.comM mloxton@med-mastodon.com

                            @benroyce
                            In one specific and very real case that I know personally, killing Grandpa.
                            Which also led to a spiral in Grandma, and her death a year later.

                            @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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                            @mloxton 🫂 that's horrible.

                            @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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                            • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                              What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                              by @ourworldindata

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                              @infobeautiful @ourworldindata Heart disease doesn't generate clicks.

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                              • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                                What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                                by @ourworldindata

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                                @infobeautiful @ourworldindata Heart disease isn't sexy

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                                • bot_anix@nrw.socialB bot_anix@nrw.social

                                  @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
                                  "and imagined their prideful ignorance was a magic shield"
                                  Incredibile.

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                                  @Bot_Anix @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                                  there's stories, not isolated stories, common stories, from nurses and doctors, of MAGA types, in hospitals during COVID, well on their way to death, crying that they don't want to die, and that they will take the vaccine now

                                  and it has to be explained to them that it is far too late for a vaccine

                                  and then they die like that

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                                  • tokphobia@mastodon.socialT tokphobia@mastodon.social

                                    @PattyHanson @infobeautiful @ourworldindata that's not exactly what the graph is about. The media isn't claiming that 18% of deaths are terrorism. Instead, reporting about terrorism deaths makes up about 18% of all reporting on deaths. In other words, the media *talks* a lot about terrorism deaths, but it doesn't *claim* that those deaths make up 18% of the total.

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                                    @tokphobia @PattyHanson @infobeautiful @ourworldindata Because the news is about what is new. Disease, whether chronic or infectious, has been with humanity since we were living in the trees in Africa. Disease makes news when there's a new treatment or when we learn something about it that we didn't know before. Homicide as a category isn't new either, but each individual homicide *is*, and the relative rarity compared to "natural" causes of death is what makes each individual event newsworthy.

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                                    • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                                      What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                                      by @ourworldindata

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                                      @infobeautiful @ourworldindata lol, should they tell us about every single person who died of a heart attack or cancer? Of course they focus on non-natural death causes.

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                                      • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                                        What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                                        by @ourworldindata

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                                        @infobeautiful @ourworldindata more people die every year from falling over in their bath than from terrorism. But start putting cameras in bathrooms and nobody wants to talk about the security aspect.

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                                        • D drorbedrack@mastodon.social

                                          @infobeautiful @ourworldindata I get what this is saying, but isnt this the old "man bites dog" issue?
                                          Of course the media will report sensational, extraordinary things. This is what people want to hear about.
                                          It's also easier when there are clear villains and victims, and not something abstract like economic forces, infrastructure, or lifestyle.

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                                          Yes, but that's not the point. The over-reporting will invoke the availability heuristic and recency bias to make people think they are much more likely to die from murder or terror attacks than from being fat.

                                          This leads to concrete politics where large minorities on each side put an inordinate amount of energy into (discussing) banning brown people or guns, where they should probably focus on regulating processed foods and advertising candy as food to children.
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