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  • mloxton@med-mastodon.comM mloxton@med-mastodon.com

    @benroyce
    In one specific and very real case that I know personally, killing Grandpa.
    Which also led to a spiral in Grandma, and her death a year later.

    @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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    @mloxton @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata πŸ˜”

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    • mloxton@med-mastodon.comM mloxton@med-mastodon.com

      @benroyce
      In one specific and very real case that I know personally, killing Grandpa.
      Which also led to a spiral in Grandma, and her death a year later.

      @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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      I also want to pause to observe, once again, how absolutely fucking insane it was that instead of masking up, avoiding crowds, and sticking to a sanitary regime, many of these people rushed out to buy guns instead. Because in their folklore, the biggest danger wasn't a disease, but brown people coming to steal their stash of jerky and bourbon

      @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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      • trifolium@c.imT trifolium@c.im

        @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

        How very clever. You are comparing apples to herrings.

        If somebody dies from illness in their own or hospital bed, it very seldom is news. Usually no need to be.

        If somebody is killed in a terrorism act or murdered, it normally is news. And for a reason.

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        @Trifolium nope--you are missing the point. @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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        • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

          What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

          by @ourworldindata

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          @infobeautiful @ourworldindata @franceinfo
          Peut-on avoir la mΓͺme analyse en France. Media publique versus BollorΓ© group. #FranceInfo

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          • snowyca@social.vivaldi.netS snowyca@social.vivaldi.net

            @Trifolium nope--you are missing the point. @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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            @SnowyCA @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

            Pray tell then what you think is the point.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

              strokes are high blood pressure so same as heart disease

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              @benroyce @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata also a high sodium diet is a strong stroke risk, and guess what else they pump into our food?

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              • wyatt_h_knott@vermont.masto.hostW wyatt_h_knott@vermont.masto.host

                @benroyce @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata also a high sodium diet is a strong stroke risk, and guess what else they pump into our food?

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                @Wyatt_H_Knott @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                βœ…

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                • trifolium@c.imT trifolium@c.im

                  @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                  How very clever. You are comparing apples to herrings.

                  If somebody dies from illness in their own or hospital bed, it very seldom is news. Usually no need to be.

                  If somebody is killed in a terrorism act or murdered, it normally is news. And for a reason.

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                  @Trifolium What reason? Sensationalism? Terror and murder go on all over the world, the reporting of it is entirely political. While stroke risk, which is a HUGE problem, and is EASY to fix, gets NOTHING.

                  Stop talking and start thinking that you might be part of the problem.

                  @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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                  • trifolium@c.imT trifolium@c.im

                    @SnowyCA @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                    Pray tell then what you think is the point.

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                    @Trifolium
                    The point is this:
                    There was a time when the media gave us facts not sensationalism...I'm old enough to remember those days.

                    @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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                    • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                      What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                      by @ourworldindata

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                      @infobeautiful @ourworldindata Suicide goes up with newspaper coverage so Nytimes can be added to the list of causes of death.

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                        strokes are high blood pressure so same as heart disease

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                        @benroyce @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata strokes are due to blood clots forming and migrating to the brain where the circulatory system becomes to small to pass them so the parts of the brain where the obstruction occurs are starved of oxygen.
                        Yes strokes occur more commonly in people with high blood pressure but not exclusively.

                        "High blood pressure is the biggest single risk factor for stroke. It plays a part in about half of all strokes."

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                        (www.stroke.org.uk)

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                        • marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM marjolica@social.linux.pizza

                          @benroyce @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata strokes are due to blood clots forming and migrating to the brain where the circulatory system becomes to small to pass them so the parts of the brain where the obstruction occurs are starved of oxygen.
                          Yes strokes occur more commonly in people with high blood pressure but not exclusively.

                          "High blood pressure is the biggest single risk factor for stroke. It plays a part in about half of all strokes."

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                          favicon

                          (www.stroke.org.uk)

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                          @marjolica @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                          oh yeah

                          thank you for the correction

                          a scary medical scenario is quickly figuring out if it is an ischemic or hemorrhagic stroke (blockage or bleeding)

                          and often the treatment for each makes things worse if they diagnose the wrong one

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                          • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                            What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                            by @ourworldindata

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                            @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                            A Fox News column would have a 66% "wokeness" band. πŸ™„

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                            • trifolium@c.imT trifolium@c.im

                              @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                              How very clever. You are comparing apples to herrings.

                              If somebody dies from illness in their own or hospital bed, it very seldom is news. Usually no need to be.

                              If somebody is killed in a terrorism act or murdered, it normally is news. And for a reason.

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                              @Trifolium

                              The point is not that the bias isn't understandable. The point is the impact of the disproportionate coverage.

                              @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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                              • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                                What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                                by @ourworldindata

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                                @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
                                No reports (or data collection?) for climate change - floods, fires, heat stroke, cold. Watch this space!

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                                • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                                  What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                                  by @ourworldindata

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                                  @infobeautiful @ourworldindata https://climatejustice.social/@wavesculptor/116094259926360074

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                                  • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                                    What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

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                                    @infobeautiful @ourworldindata y are whites easily affected by heart disease and strokes the last time I took a trip to Africa i saw someone with heart diseases it was called an abomination there

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                                    • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                                      What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                                      by @ourworldindata

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                                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@filiph/115332196437726090

                                      @infobeautiful please edit your post to include the source page.

                                      The source was in this post from @filiph :

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                                      • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                                        What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                                        by @ourworldindata

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                                        @infobeautiful @ourworldindata Can you differentiate between "domestic homicide" and "femicide" when discussing homicide offenses? Or is femicide not a recognized crime in the US?

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                                          i don't know but i would say that some of those COVID deaths should be classified as homicide or suicide

                                          people who died of COVID who did everything right but were betrayed by a MAGA moron who introduced the disease into their life and killed them

                                          and MAGA morons who essentially committed suicide by COVID because they took no precautions and imagined their prideful ignorance was a magic shield, or just didn't care if they died

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                                          @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
                                          "and imagined their prideful ignorance was a magic shield"
                                          Incredibile.

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