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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on.

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  • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

    When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

    luboganev@androiddev.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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    @jascha "*anyone* don't want you to know" is one of the title templates that I simply skip altogether. Other honorable mentions are "# must things to do to/before/with #" and "*any statement*, and why it is a good thing".

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    • sverik@kogumus.masto.hostS sverik@kogumus.masto.host

      @jascha Scientists don't want you to know about Roko's Basilisk.

      lexyeen@plush.cityL This user is from outside of this forum
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      @sverik @jascha that's just religion for techbros. they reinvented it from first principles and everything.

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      • luboganev@androiddev.socialL luboganev@androiddev.social

        @jascha "*anyone* don't want you to know" is one of the title templates that I simply skip altogether. Other honorable mentions are "# must things to do to/before/with #" and "*any statement*, and why it is a good thing".

        travisfw@fosstodon.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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        @luboganev @jascha clickbait templates, for sure. Someone should make a clickbait hiding browser addon.

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        • teledyn@mstdn.caT teledyn@mstdn.ca

          @jascha

          Just think of all those brilliant scientists driven to evil madness BECAUSE no one would listen to them!

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          @teledyn @jascha … toiling in my … *ahem* I mean THEIR secret laboratory … someday THE WORLD will KNOW!
          Oh yes hehe
          They will understand … mwa ha HA HA HA

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          • travisfw@fosstodon.orgT travisfw@fosstodon.org

            @luboganev @jascha clickbait templates, for sure. Someone should make a clickbait hiding browser addon.

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            @travisfw @jascha sounds like an appropriate weekend project. Too bad I'm a noob in web frontend.

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            • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

              When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

              cliffsesport@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @jascha ah yes aka "nerd vomit"

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              • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

                capeta@ursal.zoneC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @jascha that makes total sense in the real world. but you cannot overlook the fact that these motherfuckas are LARPing.

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                • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                  When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

                  joemug@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @jascha TBH, I've never heard the phrase "Scientists do not want you to know" spoken or written before today.
                  Joys of picking and choosing my life in a sane community/city/state/family.

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                  • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                    When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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                    @jascha "Scientists SHOCKED by..." thing scientists researched, painstakingly gathered evidence for, wrote and, crucially, *published* a paper on.

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                    • sverik@kogumus.masto.hostS sverik@kogumus.masto.host

                      @jascha Scientists don't want you to know about Roko's Basilisk.

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                      @sverik @jascha because that site and its bullshit isn't science

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                      • G gutterpoetry@mastodon.me.uk

                        @knowprose @jascha

                        Not exactly, for example, medical research is riddled with misogyny. The bias towards white males in scientific studies does lead to conclusions which are incorrectly applied to the whole of humanity.

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                        @GutterPoetry these studies aren't very sciencely imo
                        @knowprose @jascha

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                        • csolisr@hub.azkware.netC csolisr@hub.azkware.net
                          Scientists generally want you to know, the people that finance their work on the other hand? It depends on how marketable is the discovery
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                          @csolisr this obsession with demonising funders is the same strand of anti-science, honestly.
                          Most funders are also people, part of an org set up to... Fund science.

                          Globally, much research is funded by governments (so via taxes, interested in R&D and the benefits to local areas that brings, primarily), charities (and ultimately citizens for the most part) and industry. And some big donors, but again mostly because they have pet causes.
                          Sure there can be some conflicts of interest with industry and government and wealthy individuals. But overwhelmingly it's just... Funding.

                          It's disclosed in publications. The scrutiny should be on scammers - in the US, medical insurance systems for example, and the 'wellness industry', multibillion dollars wasted on trash studied and marketing worldwide. And 'alt med'.

                          This idea that scientists' funders are all out there making nefarious decisions and invalidating research findings is just as rubbish as making scientists out to be evil secret-hoarders.

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                          • dougiec3@libretooth.grD dougiec3@libretooth.gr

                            @jascha
                            There's a conspiracy theory that's been around for as long as I know; that a cure for cancer has been found, but is being kept secret because the pharmaceutical corporations have paid off the discoverer(s).
                            As if someone could resist the acclaim, the historical significance and the Nobel Prize.

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                            @dougiec3 @jascha Might be related to how there are a lot of “cures” for cancer that never became a product.

                            Because killing cancer is pretty easy. The problem is not killing the patient. What’s impossible is for the media to not wildly incorrectly report on things:/

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                            • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                              When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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                              @jascha Scientists would duct tape you to a chair and infodump it if they could.

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                              • lexyeen@plush.cityL lexyeen@plush.city

                                @sverik @jascha that's just religion for techbros. they reinvented it from first principles and everything.

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                                @LexYeen @sverik @jascha Can confirm.

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                                • noodlemaz@mstdn.gamesN noodlemaz@mstdn.games

                                  @csolisr this obsession with demonising funders is the same strand of anti-science, honestly.
                                  Most funders are also people, part of an org set up to... Fund science.

                                  Globally, much research is funded by governments (so via taxes, interested in R&D and the benefits to local areas that brings, primarily), charities (and ultimately citizens for the most part) and industry. And some big donors, but again mostly because they have pet causes.
                                  Sure there can be some conflicts of interest with industry and government and wealthy individuals. But overwhelmingly it's just... Funding.

                                  It's disclosed in publications. The scrutiny should be on scammers - in the US, medical insurance systems for example, and the 'wellness industry', multibillion dollars wasted on trash studied and marketing worldwide. And 'alt med'.

                                  This idea that scientists' funders are all out there making nefarious decisions and invalidating research findings is just as rubbish as making scientists out to be evil secret-hoarders.

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                                  @noodlemaz Not entirely wrong there! There are both good and bad patrons of science - in one side we have government agencies, public universities, specific charities, while on the other side we have... governments, universities and charities whose funds are ultimately controlled by people with less charitable interests. It's less of a damnation of science in general, and more of a sad reality of current capitalism.
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                                  • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                                    When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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                                    @jascha Scientologists don't want you to know.

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                                    • dougiec3@libretooth.grD dougiec3@libretooth.gr

                                      @jascha
                                      There's a conspiracy theory that's been around for as long as I know; that a cure for cancer has been found, but is being kept secret because the pharmaceutical corporations have paid off the discoverer(s).
                                      As if someone could resist the acclaim, the historical significance and the Nobel Prize.

                                      drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @dougiec3 @jascha And the not having to spend half their time fighting for basic funding.

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                                      • capeta@ursal.zoneC capeta@ursal.zone

                                        @jascha that makes total sense in the real world. but you cannot overlook the fact that these motherfuckas are LARPing.

                                        drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @capeta @jascha That's insulting to those of us who genuinely enjoy live action RP.

                                        Call them what they are: Bullshitters. Scam artists.

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                                        • csolisr@hub.azkware.netC csolisr@hub.azkware.net
                                          @noodlemaz Not entirely wrong there! There are both good and bad patrons of science - in one side we have government agencies, public universities, specific charities, while on the other side we have... governments, universities and charities whose funds are ultimately controlled by people with less charitable interests. It's less of a damnation of science in general, and more of a sad reality of current capitalism.
                                          noodlemaz@mstdn.gamesN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #76

                                          @csolisr problem of capitalism, fully agree. So many things are 😔

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