When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on.
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha Yeah. Have you ever tried talking to a scientist about their field of study? I don't particularly recommend it; once you get them going, it's damn near impossible to get them to shut up!
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@jascha Yeah. Have you ever tried talking to a scientist about their field of study? I don't particularly recommend it; once you get them going, it's damn near impossible to get them to shut up!
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha Scientists don't want you to know about Roko's Basilisk.
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha scientists dont want you to know that they said "you too" to the waiter that told them "bon apetit".
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
. . . this one neat trick. ugh.
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@jascha Scientists probably don't want you to listen to flat earth no-vaccines guy, but that's because someone did the debunking 50 years ago back when that seemed worth doing.
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
Oh please someone read this paper. Anyone! Anyone with a heartbeat please read this paper. Here.
The assholes at Elsevier put it behind a paywall but here's a preprint you can share with anyone else who has a heartbeat.
Please for the love of God. Anyone read this!!!
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@jascha it's the whole point of science.
The friction occurs because of who funds studies, etc. And that can be legitimate.
But science itself is just science.
Every conversation I have had where I encountered this, I made that point. And it sticks.
There is bias in some aspects of what is *presented* as science.
But that's not science.
Science is not marketing. So I point to that.
@knowprose @jascha one of the reasons we founded BIML was to do science unencumbered by marketing pressure #MLsec
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@knowprose @jascha one of the reasons we founded BIML was to do science unencumbered by marketing pressure #MLsec
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Building Security into Machine Learning
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@noplasticshower @jascha One of the many reasons I follow you.
My own writing tends toward the same thing, but I am not a scientist. I just follow coherence. It takes me to interesting places.
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha They sure sound enthusiastic on https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks
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@noplasticshower @jascha One of the many reasons I follow you.
My own writing tends toward the same thing, but I am not a scientist. I just follow coherence. It takes me to interesting places.
@knowprose @jascha Thank you for that. Attention is all we need...LOL
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha
Reminds me of that jokeChild to his biologist dad:
"Dad what's an electron?"Dad: "Why don't you ask your mom, she's the physicist, electrons are her wheelworks."
Child: "But I don't want to know *that* much about it."
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@knowprose @jascha Thank you for that. Attention is all we need...LOL
@noplasticshower @jascha It's a marathon, that's for sure.
The Distraction economy keeps the good stuff out of people's heads. Been writing about that, though data sovereignty has been the more prominent thing in the past week. Wrapping that up today on knowprose.com.
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha
If anything, scientists are wary of telling you because they know you’ll take whatever they say to the most illogical conclusion. -
When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha they put all their shit online and are begging you to engage with their ideas, if you can credibly disprove something they will change their theories because of you!
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@jascha @chirpbirb they also tend to want to talk about what they *don't* know
@OctaviaConAmore @jascha @chirpbirb very chatty!
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha while I agree that it is indeed an overly generalist statement, I don’t think you should dismiss everything someone says after they made a possible mistake.
Physicians often don’t want you to know about metaphysics. Biologists often don’t want you to know about endogenetics. Computer scientists don’t want you to understand quantum computers.
Scientists are people like everyone else, and they too will often deny what you say based on bias or pass you off like a hot potato.
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@jascha it's the whole point of science.
The friction occurs because of who funds studies, etc. And that can be legitimate.
But science itself is just science.
Every conversation I have had where I encountered this, I made that point. And it sticks.
There is bias in some aspects of what is *presented* as science.
But that's not science.
Science is not marketing. So I point to that.
Not exactly, for example, medical research is riddled with misogyny. The bias towards white males in scientific studies does lead to conclusions which are incorrectly applied to the whole of humanity.
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha Yes, this is exactly why I became a scientist
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Not exactly, for example, medical research is riddled with misogyny. The bias towards white males in scientific studies does lead to conclusions which are incorrectly applied to the whole of humanity.
@GutterPoetry @jascha That is a valid issue.
That is a science issue but it is a blind spot that is being addressed.
I'll give you an example.
My father was in a diabetic coma, but he had no ketones in his urine. Why? He was East Indian. The medicine around that has changed.
Not misogyny. Misogyny requires intent. Medicine has been biased toward white males. No question. But I won't say every doctor who built it hated women. That seems extreme.
Some did. Maybe many. But not all.
