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  3. When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on.

When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on.

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  • timphon@lingo.lolT timphon@lingo.lol

    @jascha yaasss!

    Exceptions:

    - it's not actually a scientist but someone trying to claim the mantle of science to legitimize something that isn't science

    - it's a scientist talking about something other than science (ex, I don't particularly want you to know the pin number for my bank card)

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    @jascha Even with controversial topics like climate change, scientists generally *want* people to know; they just don't trust many of the common channel for communicating. Media are usually more interested in hyping sensation than conveying nuance.

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    • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

      When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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      @jascha I mean … right … have you ever met a scientist?!
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      • dougiec3@libretooth.grD dougiec3@libretooth.gr

        @drwho @jascha
        That alone is a full-time job.

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        @dougiec3 @jascha Indeed it is.

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        • leeloo@chaosfem.twL leeloo@chaosfem.tw

          @RogerBW @jascha
          50 years ago?

          Maybe for vaccines.

          We¹ knew the Earth is round 600 BC, and had calculated the circumference by 300 BC.

          ¹) The people who lived in Greece back then, of course none of us had been born yet.

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          @leeloo @RogerBW @jascha Only Greeks?

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          • csolisr@hub.azkware.netC csolisr@hub.azkware.net
            Scientists generally want you to know, the people that finance their work on the other hand? It depends on how marketable is the discovery
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            @csolisr I've never personally experienced or even remotely heard of a funder trying to influence the results of a study (and been a scientist for about 15 years now). I'm sure it can happen but it will be a negligible minority.

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            • wall_e@ioc.exchangeW wall_e@ioc.exchange

              @jascha they want you to know so bad, they've devised a whole elaborate system around publishing their research.

              They're holding regular conferences and publish everything that's been presented there as "proceedings".

              They _teach_ at public institutions to make sure more people know each year.

              They want you to know! That's literally their job

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              @wall_e @jascha we beat our heads on walls and end up battered as a result.

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              • numodular@c.imN numodular@c.im

                @jascha Lest they be working more for profit, than higher ethics.

                I went to school with a couple of eventual billionaire lobbyists. Quite bright scientists.

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                @numodular @jascha "quite bright" is "dim".

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                • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                  When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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                  @jascha I'm going to spend hundreds of hours and hundreds of thousands of euros to find this thing out, and then I'm just gonna not tell anyone what I spent the hundreds of hours and hundreds of thousands of euro to find out. My little secret 🙊

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                  • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                    When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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                    @jascha Married to a scientist. Toot personally verified.

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                    • scogings@mastodon.worldS scogings@mastodon.world

                      @leeloo @RogerBW @jascha Only Greeks?

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                      @scogings @RogerBW @jascha
                      The man who is known to have done the calculation back then was Greek.

                      He may not have been the only one or the first.

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