When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on.

[jascha@ohai.social]

When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

[elvith@nerdculture.de]

@jascha
"Scientists don't want you to know" usually translates to "Scientists want to tell the truth (or what they established as truth so far). But that doesn't sell my products/services/world view... so I'm making some shit up and hope you don't realize it."

[rogerbw@discordian.social]

@jascha Scientists probably don't want you to listen to flat earth no-vaccines guy, but that's because someone did the debunking 50 years ago back when that seemed worth doing.

[cyberia@tilde.zone]

@jascha https://stockportflat.earth/

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[lizardbill@hachyderm.io]

@jascha "Scientists paid to make their research open access" doesn't have the same ring to it.

[knowprose@mastodon.social]

@jascha it's the whole point of science.

The friction occurs because of who funds studies, etc. And that can be legitimate.

But science itself is just science.

Every conversation I have had where I encountered this, I made that point. And it sticks.

There is bias in some aspects of what is *presented* as science.

But that's not science.

Science is not marketing. So I point to that.

[ben@mastodon.lubar.me]

@jascha scientists do not want you to know their password and three security questions

[octaviaconamore@cutie.city]

@jascha @chirpbirb they also tend to want to talk about what they *don't* know

[mkj@social.mkj.earth]

@jascha Yeah. Have you ever tried talking to a scientist about their field of study? I don't particularly recommend it; once you get them going, it's damn near impossible to get them to shut up!

[rabidchaos@hachyderm.io]

@mkj @jascha ... You still haven't said why I shouldn't? All I heard is why I should.

[sverik@kogumus.masto.host]

@jascha Scientists don't want you to know about Roko's Basilisk.

[einspossum@chaos.social]

@jascha scientists dont want you to know that they said "you too" to the waiter that told them "bon apetit".

[kimlockhartga@beige.party]

@jascha

. . . this one neat trick. ugh.

[anatomical_normalcy@mastodon.social]

@RogerBW @jascha
Scientists don't want to bother debunking Flat Earth because someone already did that with a stick thousands of years ago

[chu@climatejustice.social]

@jascha

Oh please someone read this paper. Anyone! Anyone with a heartbeat please read this paper. Here.

The assholes at Elsevier put it behind a paywall but here's a preprint you can share with anyone else who has a heartbeat.

Please for the love of God. Anyone read this!!!

[noplasticshower@infosec.exchange]

@knowprose @jascha one of the reasons we founded BIML was to do science unencumbered by marketing pressure #MLsec

Berryville Institute of Machine Learning

Building Security into Machine Learning

Berryville Institute of Machine Learning (berryvilleiml.com)

[knowprose@mastodon.social]

@noplasticshower @jascha One of the many reasons I follow you.

My own writing tends toward the same thing, but I am not a scientist. I just follow coherence. It takes me to interesting places.

[dianora@ottawa.place]

@jascha They sure sound enthusiastic on https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks

[noplasticshower@infosec.exchange]

@knowprose @jascha Thank you for that. Attention is all we need...LOL