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My greatest professional accomplishment of the year: I got my exec & manager teammates saying "point positive," a term from whitewater rafting and kayaking.

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  • eanakashima@hachyderm.ioE eanakashima@hachyderm.io

    My greatest professional accomplishment of the year: I got my exec & manager teammates saying "point positive," a term from whitewater rafting and kayaking.

    Meaning: when facing hazards, point people toward where to go/what to do, rather than drawing attention to everything to avoid.

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    @eanakashima

    I knew the concept from motorcycle (and bicycle) training, but not the term "point positive" which is excellent, thanks, TIL. 🙂

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    • richlv@mastodon.socialR richlv@mastodon.social

      @eanakashima Ha, didn't know boating people used that as well - motorcycle people are told "do not look at the tree" (or more generally, look where you want to go, not what you want to avoid).

      The Wikipedia page is disappointingly terse, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Target_fixation .

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      @richlv @eanakashima

      Interesting to read about the application of this thinking to rafting, kajaking, motorcycling and skiing (in a other replies), wasn't aware of this.

      With "Solution-Focused Coaching" there is also a whole school of thought that is based on related ideas. And it originated from a specific form of #psychotherapy (Solution Focused Brief Therapy #SFBT).

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      • zeank@mastodon.socialZ zeank@mastodon.social

        @eanakashima @praveen society is not immutable. If you just avoid conflict, always take the way of least resistance, never fixing things, never identifying obstacles and problems to address everything will stay bad for everyone forever.

        If your job is like a death ride on a wild river reconsider your life choices, if you have enough privilege to do so.

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        @zeank

        Its a matter of the sequence:

        Looking for the bright spot on the horizon first enables us to assess which rocks are worth dealing with, because they're in our pathway.

        Looking around for all rocks first, we never have any time for determining what we want more of, or a path leading to it.

        The trouble is that you get problems for free, in unlimited numbers. And the time for lifting your head and looking around is available only in small doses.

        Hence we become experts in things that we want less of, and we keep struggling with even building a bit of expertise of what we want more of.

        @eanakashima @praveen

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        • eanakashima@hachyderm.ioE eanakashima@hachyderm.io

          My greatest professional accomplishment of the year: I got my exec & manager teammates saying "point positive," a term from whitewater rafting and kayaking.

          Meaning: when facing hazards, point people toward where to go/what to do, rather than drawing attention to everything to avoid.

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          @eanakashima This thinking saved my life once when I was riding a motorcycle.

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          • eanakashima@hachyderm.ioE eanakashima@hachyderm.io

            @richlv ooh TIL "target fixation"

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            @eanakashima @richlv I recall dojng a skid pan training session, tremendous fun and genuinely useful for better car control, and we were told “if you stare at the wall you’re worried about hitting, you’re much more likely to hit it”

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            • eanakashima@hachyderm.ioE eanakashima@hachyderm.io

              My greatest professional accomplishment of the year: I got my exec & manager teammates saying "point positive," a term from whitewater rafting and kayaking.

              Meaning: when facing hazards, point people toward where to go/what to do, rather than drawing attention to everything to avoid.

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              @eanakashima this relates to my complaint about signs like "low flying aircraft". Should I get a really big butterfly net? Should I dodge? What's the recommended action?

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              • eanakashima@hachyderm.ioE eanakashima@hachyderm.io

                People just naturally start to go toward where you draw their attention, whether they want to or not. 🤷🏻

                Might as well pick something good to point at.

                This lesson has many applications right now.

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                @eanakashima Hey it's like driving target fixation!

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                • eanakashima@hachyderm.ioE eanakashima@hachyderm.io

                  My greatest professional accomplishment of the year: I got my exec & manager teammates saying "point positive," a term from whitewater rafting and kayaking.

                  Meaning: when facing hazards, point people toward where to go/what to do, rather than drawing attention to everything to avoid.

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                  @eanakashima I learned a variation of this that's basically distilled down to say "yes, if" not, "no, unless"

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                  • eanakashima@hachyderm.ioE eanakashima@hachyderm.io

                    My greatest professional accomplishment of the year: I got my exec & manager teammates saying "point positive," a term from whitewater rafting and kayaking.

                    Meaning: when facing hazards, point people toward where to go/what to do, rather than drawing attention to everything to avoid.

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                    @eanakashima I love this! Done this while canoeing too! And it’s a great approach concept I’ll try to remember when teaching!!

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                    • eanakashima@hachyderm.ioE eanakashima@hachyderm.io

                      My greatest professional accomplishment of the year: I got my exec & manager teammates saying "point positive," a term from whitewater rafting and kayaking.

                      Meaning: when facing hazards, point people toward where to go/what to do, rather than drawing attention to everything to avoid.

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                      @eanakashima
                      Same with hang gliding. "Look where you want to go". If you look at the ground, you fail to launch; if you look at the horizon, you go into the sky

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                      • eanakashima@hachyderm.ioE eanakashima@hachyderm.io

                        My greatest professional accomplishment of the year: I got my exec & manager teammates saying "point positive," a term from whitewater rafting and kayaking.

                        Meaning: when facing hazards, point people toward where to go/what to do, rather than drawing attention to everything to avoid.

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                        @eanakashima@hachyderm.io Teachers have been doing this for a very long time.
                        When you finish on a word that is what children latch onto in the moment.
                        So when you say to a child "Don't run' they essentially hear run.
                        Instead if you say "Stand still" or "Name, stop" you get a better chance of them processing and doing what you want.
                        "Don't hit" becomes "Use kind hands". You cannot get the perfect last word, but you can avoid the negative ones.
                        More importantly, you can always describe the behaviour you want, which is better.
                        Because kids are people, this works on all people even when they get bigger.

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                        • eanakashima@hachyderm.ioE eanakashima@hachyderm.io

                          People just naturally start to go toward where you draw their attention, whether they want to or not. 🤷🏻

                          Might as well pick something good to point at.

                          This lesson has many applications right now.

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                          @eanakashima EXACTLY!!
                          I was just talking about this here yesterday with someone naysaying & spreading hopeless cynicism towards my positive vision…and shortly after an interview with Rebecca Solnit expressing this was posted on YT, and now this.
                          I feel the universe is vindicating me in my arguments & pov. And giving me more examples to better express it.

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                          • tab2space@mastodon.socialT tab2space@mastodon.social

                            @richlv @eanakashima

                            First rule of tree skiing (skiing through aspen groves or other timber):

                            "Look and aim between the trees."

                            Whether it's someone else pointing, or you pointing, pointing where to go indeed matters.

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                            @tab2space @richlv @eanakashima “ski the snow, not the trees” is what I learned.

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                            • eanakashima@hachyderm.ioE eanakashima@hachyderm.io

                              My greatest professional accomplishment of the year: I got my exec & manager teammates saying "point positive," a term from whitewater rafting and kayaking.

                              Meaning: when facing hazards, point people toward where to go/what to do, rather than drawing attention to everything to avoid.

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                              @eanakashima Alpine Skiing lesson “ski the snow, not the trees” is the phrase I was told.

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                              • wifiwits@infosec.exchangeW wifiwits@infosec.exchange

                                @eanakashima @richlv I recall dojng a skid pan training session, tremendous fun and genuinely useful for better car control, and we were told “if you stare at the wall you’re worried about hitting, you’re much more likely to hit it”

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                                @Wifiwits @eanakashima @richlv had that in my drivers training as well. "You steer automatically to where your view is directed. So don't stare at that tree, but where you wanna drive to avoid collision".

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                                • eanakashima@hachyderm.ioE eanakashima@hachyderm.io

                                  My greatest professional accomplishment of the year: I got my exec & manager teammates saying "point positive," a term from whitewater rafting and kayaking.

                                  Meaning: when facing hazards, point people toward where to go/what to do, rather than drawing attention to everything to avoid.

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                                  @eanakashima
                                  This works for slicing bread, too.
                                  Focus on a point at the bottom of the loaf; that's where the knife will go.

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                                  • reinald@nrw.socialR reinald@nrw.social

                                    @Wifiwits @eanakashima @richlv had that in my drivers training as well. "You steer automatically to where your view is directed. So don't stare at that tree, but where you wanna drive to avoid collision".

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                                    @Reinald @eanakashima @richlv it was particularly pleasing that me and the teenage girl I was paired with in the small front wheel drive car both got it really quickly and the instructor had to start sabotaging us to make it more difficult. The cocky lads in their 20s with the didn’t make it round the corner once… facing the right direction anyway.

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                                    • richlv@mastodon.socialR richlv@mastodon.social

                                      @eanakashima Ha, didn't know boating people used that as well - motorcycle people are told "do not look at the tree" (or more generally, look where you want to go, not what you want to avoid).

                                      The Wikipedia page is disappointingly terse, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Target_fixation .

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                                      @richlv @eanakashima yeah I remember it from when I had a motorbike

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