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One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

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  • iwein@mas.toI iwein@mas.to

    @leeloo i think it's best to reject crimes on their own merit.

    Israel did this. It's a war crime and a genocide. They stand accused by the ICC and rightfully so.

    Bringing up Oct 7, or the Holocaust just provides irrelevant distractions from the very clear legal and ethical reality.

    There's no excuse, no debate, no comparison, just judgement and punishment for them. The only place this should be allowed to be defended is in court in the Hague.

    @streetartutopia

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    @iwein @streetartutopia
    No. Calling such comparison "irrelevant distractions" is exactly how fascist defend supporting one genocide while condemning the other.

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    • henry@radikal.socialH henry@radikal.social

      @streetartutopia wonder which type of munitions can cause this specific very interesting pattern of damage to electrical poles

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      @streetartutopia hate it when the IDF bombs my 1x1 red wooden outhouse and turns it into a 4x5 concrete ruin

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      • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

        One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

        Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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        @streetartutopia I will never again find a good word for Isreal, unless it's a horribly fitting one. Call me anti-semitic if you wish; this statement has nothing to do with the Jewish religion. All you do is prove how poor your knowledge of the English language is.

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        • henry@radikal.socialH henry@radikal.social

          @streetartutopia Unless there's a fixed webcam that's miraculously stayed in place there despite every building around it being leveled then this is AI generated. Both images have pixel-perfect identical framing, which is impossible to achieve years apart even in perfect conditions. Given the abundance of genuine photographic evidence of the destruction of Gaza it seems unhelpful to spread AI-generated approximations that risk feeding zionist narratives about fabricated evidence.

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          @henry Exactly what I suspected. Thank you.

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          • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

            One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

            Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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            Thanks @streetartutopia for this. May I reuse this picture ? If yes, whats the source for citation ?
            Thanks & regards

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            • leeloo@c.imL leeloo@c.im

              @iwein @streetartutopia
              No. Calling such comparison "irrelevant distractions" is exactly how fascist defend supporting one genocide while condemning the other.

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              @leeloo i haven't seen that one in the wild, but if I do I will call it out.

              I've seen a lot of hasbarra accounts bringing up Oct 7 or the Holocaust to frame this war crime and genocide as self defense though.

              Let's just take them to the Hague and leave the arguments to the lawyers and the judging to the judges?

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              • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

                One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

                Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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                @streetartutopia This image makes me equally sad and incandescently angry.

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                • iwein@mas.toI iwein@mas.to

                  @leeloo i haven't seen that one in the wild, but if I do I will call it out.

                  I've seen a lot of hasbarra accounts bringing up Oct 7 or the Holocaust to frame this war crime and genocide as self defense though.

                  Let's just take them to the Hague and leave the arguments to the lawyers and the judging to the judges?

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                  @iwein
                  Unless you have personal contacts who can do that, no, we need to keep shouting until our own politicians get the message.

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                  • zeri@chaos.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @yonkeltron @ojelabii @streetartutopia look at the bright side nobody is blowing up the Kneset or girl schools in Tel Aviv. And again, non-reciprocity I don't understand why you people keep insisting one crime is ok because someone else is doing something similar or worse? Nobody likes Iran but if you guys insist on behaving like Hamas & Iran maybe you should receive the same treatment you prescribe for them.

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                    • zeri@chaos.socialZ zeri@chaos.social

                      @yonkeltron @ojelabii @streetartutopia look at the bright side nobody is blowing up the Kneset or girl schools in Tel Aviv. And again, non-reciprocity I don't understand why you people keep insisting one crime is ok because someone else is doing something similar or worse? Nobody likes Iran but if you guys insist on behaving like Hamas & Iran maybe you should receive the same treatment you prescribe for them.

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                      @zeri @ojelabii @streetartutopia Hamas would blow them up if they could, and we know this because they’re honest about what they want.

                      Also when you say “you deserve” clearly you’re referring to Jews. Thanks for being honest about what you want.

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                      • zeri@chaos.socialZ zeri@chaos.social

                        @yonkeltron @ojelabii @streetartutopia look at the bright side nobody is blowing up the Kneset or girl schools in Tel Aviv. And again, non-reciprocity I don't understand why you people keep insisting one crime is ok because someone else is doing something similar or worse? Nobody likes Iran but if you guys insist on behaving like Hamas & Iran maybe you should receive the same treatment you prescribe for them.

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                        @zeri "[…] insisting one crime is ok because someone else is doing something similar or worse". It's rather the other way around in my case! I do not say, that one crime is okay. What I try to say is: please don't overlook those other crimes by focusing alone on this one. (I do not say, that you did so, but many does, in my perception.) This one crime is a crime and a crime is never good. But let us not close our eyes to all the other crimes to only highlight this.
                        @yonkeltron @streetartutopia

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                        • zeri@chaos.socialZ zeri@chaos.social

                          @yonkeltron @ojelabii @streetartutopia look at the bright side nobody is blowing up the Kneset or girl schools in Tel Aviv. And again, non-reciprocity I don't understand why you people keep insisting one crime is ok because someone else is doing something similar or worse? Nobody likes Iran but if you guys insist on behaving like Hamas & Iran maybe you should receive the same treatment you prescribe for them.

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                          @zeri @ojelabii @streetartutopia wait hold on are you a fellow NixOS user? I deployed it on all the servers in my house cluster and absolutely love it. Even got nix-Darwin on my macOS device and I’m a total zealot about it now. Go figure, it’s a small world.

                          Is it your daily driver?

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                          • yonkeltron@jawns.clubY yonkeltron@jawns.club

                            @zeri @ojelabii @streetartutopia Hamas would blow them up if they could, and we know this because they’re honest about what they want.

                            Also when you say “you deserve” clearly you’re referring to Jews. Thanks for being honest about what you want.

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                            @yonkeltron @ojelabii @streetartutopia stop that antisemite bullshit Israel is not "the jews" it's Israel. There are so many jews that don't want anything to do with that little revenge party Israel is throwing in gaza. So take your bullshit and put it where the sun doesn't shine you fucking antisemite! You wouldn't lay ISIS at the feet of Moslems in Indonesia either.

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                            • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                              @zeri Firstly: That comparison »is« devastating. Secondly: If you write "nothing justifies this" … would that count for the Hamas »as well« (which knowingly started this all with their October 7 attacks from 2023)?
                              @streetartutopia

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                              @ojelabii @zeri @streetartutopia it's like saying "that person is a murdered, we'll go to their hometown, kill everyone there and destroy every building".
                              That's not justice. It's a pretext for senseless barbary.

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                              • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                                @zeri "[…] insisting one crime is ok because someone else is doing something similar or worse". It's rather the other way around in my case! I do not say, that one crime is okay. What I try to say is: please don't overlook those other crimes by focusing alone on this one. (I do not say, that you did so, but many does, in my perception.) This one crime is a crime and a crime is never good. But let us not close our eyes to all the other crimes to only highlight this.
                                @yonkeltron @streetartutopia

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                                @ojelabii @yonkeltron @streetartutopia that wasn't aimed at you but at mr "look Iran, Isis, Hamas, Sudan, all horrible stop looking at gaza you antisemite" over there who is damning Israel with faint praise.

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                                • zeri@chaos.socialZ zeri@chaos.social

                                  @yonkeltron @ojelabii @streetartutopia stop that antisemite bullshit Israel is not "the jews" it's Israel. There are so many jews that don't want anything to do with that little revenge party Israel is throwing in gaza. So take your bullshit and put it where the sun doesn't shine you fucking antisemite! You wouldn't lay ISIS at the feet of Moslems in Indonesia either.

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                                  @zeri @ojelabii @streetartutopia if you want to criticize Israel, get in line. Behind me, because I’m a Palestinian Nationalist, actually. But calling an asymmetrical war a genocide but not other things? That’s a genuine antisemitic double standard because it implies Jews have a special capacity for evil.

                                  I’m not saying criticism of Israel is antisemitic. I’m saying that if you only call Israel to task and not others, then you are an antisemite.

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                                  • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                                    @zeri "[…] insisting one crime is ok because someone else is doing something similar or worse". It's rather the other way around in my case! I do not say, that one crime is okay. What I try to say is: please don't overlook those other crimes by focusing alone on this one. (I do not say, that you did so, but many does, in my perception.) This one crime is a crime and a crime is never good. But let us not close our eyes to all the other crimes to only highlight this.
                                    @yonkeltron @streetartutopia

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                                    @ojelabii @zeri @streetartutopia hear, hear.

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                                    • cyrille37@mamot.frC cyrille37@mamot.fr

                                      Thanks @streetartutopia for this. May I reuse this picture ? If yes, whats the source for citation ?
                                      Thanks & regards

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                                      @Cyrille37 @streetartutopia hi, it's been noticed that the source is AI

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                                      • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

                                        One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

                                        Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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                                        @streetartutopia Is that bottom image real? It seems absurdly implausible that it could've been taken at the exact same camera angle, height, and location as the first image given the immense destruction that has occurred around where the camera is sitting at? A reverse image search also only turned up a few X accounts reposting it with no source.

                                        (Note: I'm only questioning the validity of that particular image, not the destruction that has actually occurred in Gaza as a whole)

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                                        • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                                          @zeri "[…] insisting one crime is ok because someone else is doing something similar or worse". It's rather the other way around in my case! I do not say, that one crime is okay. What I try to say is: please don't overlook those other crimes by focusing alone on this one. (I do not say, that you did so, but many does, in my perception.) This one crime is a crime and a crime is never good. But let us not close our eyes to all the other crimes to only highlight this.
                                          @yonkeltron @streetartutopia

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                                          @ojelabii @yonkeltron @streetartutopia do the test in the other direction, are chinese pointing to Israel to defend their little genocide? Are people defending ISIS with "look at Israel"? Are Iranians defending their brutal murder of tens of thousands of citizens with Israels conduct? Well they don't where I live. Here all that stuff is called out in the media except for Israel, somehow for that we deliver explosives while the rest of the world keeps telling us to stop delivering weapons.

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